Motor boat licence

[chrisumts]

Hi,

can anyone out there help me with some advice please. I would like to attain a motor boat licence which will enable me to pilot a small pleasure craft on inland waterways, ( e.g Bayliner/Sea ray etc approx 8m or so).
As I am a complete novice, what are requirements for attaining such a licence, and the time frame needed and costs?
Finally, can anyone tell me if such a licence is valid in Europe as well, ( specifically Germany and the Czech Republic)

Many thanks in advance,

Chris.

 

[Argonautical]

Hi Chris!

Contact George Morgan Harris, at Port Solent!

He is a real gentleman, and trades and Premiere-Sea.
07979 597689.
Tell him Jason sent you!

You will get a no bull5hit scenario from him
Jas.

 

[chrisumts]

Hi Jas,

Thanks very much, I will call him and let you know how i get on,

All the best,
Chris.

 

[boatone]

In the UK you dont actually need a licence to drive a boat on inland or coastal waters.
There is an RYA Certificate called Inland Waterways Helmsmans certficate and there is also the ICC qualification which is required in many European countries.

Any RYA recognised establishment can give you the chapter and verse

 

[GrowingLad]

Hi Chrisumts,
I've been looking at something similar myself.
Check out the RYA site for info, very good.
Not sure about inland waters but for sea going you have the Power Boat one and two.
If you plan to use a boat overseas as boatone says an ICC will cover you (once again, not sure for inland)

Also, if you plan to take your own boat over you'll need to register it. I have a great document from a lady at the RYA that explains everything very well. PM if you are interested and I'll forward it on to you.

 

[chrisumts]

Hi Growing lad!

Thanks for the info. Yes, that would be very helpful. If you PM me I'll send you my email
Many thanks again,

Chrisumts.


(edited by Keith to stop spam spiders finding Chris' email)

 

[Sneds]

Overseas you will need an ICC with CEVNI endorsement for inland waterways, it consists of a bit of a theory test added on the the ICC test.
Funnilly enough, if you charter an inland boat oversea you don't need it, but if you take your own you do! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[MapisM]

Really?!

[ QUOTE ]
In the UK you dont actually need a licence to drive a boat on inland or coastal waters.

[/ QUOTE ]Do you mean that you can sign a check, purchase a 108' from those guys with the undiluted spirit, and go for coastal cruising without any licence?
I can think of some football players and actors who could be interested...
...or maybe not, they probably would be able to purchase also the license, if required! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Wiggo]

Re: Really?!

I think the limit is 24m, above which you do need a driving license, but otherwise you are quite correct.

 

[SnaxMuppet]

Re: Really?!

[ QUOTE ]
Do you mean that you can sign a check, purchase a 108' from those guys with the undiluted spirit, and go for coastal cruising without any licence?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup! Mad isn't it!!!

Although I think that the max size might be 24m rather than 108'.

Something else that is mad is that there is no legal requirement to have insurance either!!!!!

 

[MapisM]

Re: Really?!

[ QUOTE ]
Something else that is mad is that there is no legal requirement to have insurance either!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]Now that's really unbelievable.
I assume that the insurance on cars is mandatory, innit? Why not on boats?
Freedom of choice is something I very much appreciate, but this just doesn't make any sense...

 

[brianrunyard]

Re: Really?!

The maximum length is 24 m, but as far as I know, there's no minimum age requirement either.

 

[Kawasaki]

Re: Really?!

Insurance.
Most Marinas ask for it, especially for third party damage.
I know the Council controlled moorings in My area, you can't have one without insurance.
So I think it would be difficult to get afloat with a biggie without some sort of cover.
Unless One owns Ones own waterside property with Ones own Dock and foreshore.
What does One think? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[oceanfroggie]

The ICC covers the world and for inland in some EU countries you need the CEVNI endorsment which is a quick multiple choice test.

How to apply for ICC

The ICC can be applied for through the RYA if you hold a suitable combination of one or more their certificates of competancy (eg PB Level II, inland helmsman, DS, etc). Btw, some countries or charter operators that claim in their T&Cs they need certs never ask for them, but some do. (Where is ICC required)

 

[SnaxMuppet]

Re: Really?!

I think you are right... it would be difficult to imagine many situations where a moored/berthed boat wouldn't require insurance by the mooring/berth owner. But if you trailer your boat or own your own mooring then you could get away without insurance I am sure.

While we are considering the ICC... something I was confused over at first is that the ICC is only required to operate a *UK* registered boat in foreign waters of only those countries that recognise the ICC.

Officially, it is no good at all when operating a non-UK registered boat although a few countries may accept the ICC in lieu of their national certification requirements this should not be assumed and it is by no means universal.

So, if you are taking your own UK-registered boat abroad, or chartering a UK registered boat abroad, then the ICC might be all you need (depending on the country and if they have accepted Resolution 40) but for chartering a non-UK registered boat anywhere, or chartering any boat in a country that has not accepted Resolution 40 and so does not recognise the ICC, you will need whatever licence nationals of that country need to operate the boat.

 

[Kawasaki]

Re: Really?!

A little bit more input ref ICC.
I rented an apartement in Port Lacuett (spelling?) near Perpignon a couple of Months ago.
The Marina had a "Rent a Boat" operation.
"Sans permit" boats were available with about a 9 hp max motor.
For anything above that a "Permit" was required.
I hired a Dory type boat with a 90 on the back.
Before I could go however the Proprietor wanted to see my "Permit".
Showed Him My RYA stuff ( kept in one folder) He was only interested in one item, the ICC. Recognised it instantly and read the French bit thoroughly.
Seemed happy with this .
There was no way He was letting any customers afloat, even watched Him refuse a Number of people, without an ICC or whatever else is needed in France.
Incidently the Apartement was rented through Dave Snelson our fellow Forumite.
I can really reccomend the place and Dave's Organisation.
I have No commercial connection, just to say it was good!

 

[chrisumts]

Hi Sneddon, Many thanks, (and also many thanks to everyone else who has helped me to start moving in the right direction!).
So with an ICC together with a CEVNI endorsement, this should cover me for abroad then, ( Specifically the Czech Republic).
Does anyone know where I could perform the ICC, ( preferably somewhere in Southern England), and what would be the cost for this roughly? I presume it would be possible to do a intensive course over a couple of days or so.. ?

Many thanks in advance,

Chris.