MikeBz
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It wasn’t there last year…
More of a what-is-it than a where-is-it
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tillergirl
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That is a nesting structure. Everybody knows that. Looks to me that is at 52° 14´·29N., 1° 39´·02E.. 
TLouth7
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Yeah it's used by breeding pairs of wind turbines to raise their young. You may have noticed that thanks to the hard work of conservationists there are many more colonies of wind turbines in the North Sea than ever before. Beware though - new colonies are very vulnerable which is why you may be asked to keep a safe distance by guard vessels. An established colony is safe to pass through but don't approach individual turbines.
tillergirl
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Actually there are two additional 'towers' off Lowestoft (the image is the one off Minsmere). This is because of the problem of the Kittiwake's nesting in Lowestoft (which is pretty significant).
Reverting to TLouth7 point, conservationists are opposed to turbines coming ashore.
Reverting to TLouth7 point, conservationists are opposed to turbines coming ashore.
LittleSister
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impressive how all NIMBYs have now become conservationists. I haven't come across any campaigning to reduce consumption of and reliance on electricity, though.
sailorman
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Is this new off oostend eentrance, my guess is port signals tr
Clancy Moped
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Kin hell that's a bit extreme, I mean I don't like my neighbours but hey!
Leighb
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That must have been what I could see off Sizewell when we were in Southwold on Friday. I remember thinking " I don't remember seeing anything like that when we have sailed past" but the last time was in 2019 so just might not have recalled correctly.
Is it to do with wind farms, or the future(?) Sizewell C?
Is it to do with wind farms, or the future(?) Sizewell C?
tillergirl
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Does no one read Notices to Mariners?
ENGLAND - East Coast - Piles.
Works are taking place in Lowestoft and Minsmere to construct artificial nesting structures, in the following positions:
Characteristic Designation Position
Fl.Y.5s3 M ANS 1 52° 14´·29N., 1° 39´·02E.
Fl.Y.5s3 M ANS 2 52° 27´·64N., 1° 45´·81E.
Fl.Y.2·5s3 M ANS 3 52° 27´·72N., 1° 45´·82E.
Mariners are advised to navigate with caution and maintain a safe distance of at least 500m from construction vessels in the area.
Charts will be updated when works are complete.
Notice 2318(P) refers
ENGLAND - East Coast - Piles.
Works are taking place in Lowestoft and Minsmere to construct artificial nesting structures, in the following positions:
Characteristic Designation Position
Fl.Y.5s3 M ANS 1 52° 14´·29N., 1° 39´·02E.
Fl.Y.5s3 M ANS 2 52° 27´·64N., 1° 45´·81E.
Fl.Y.2·5s3 M ANS 3 52° 27´·72N., 1° 45´·82E.
Mariners are advised to navigate with caution and maintain a safe distance of at least 500m from construction vessels in the area.
Charts will be updated when works are complete.
Notice 2318(P) refers
MikeBz
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We asked the ferryman (whom we did pay before he got to to the other side) at Southwold what it was - he said maybe to do with birds or wind farm cables. We did a close fly-by on our return and rejected it being anything to do with birds - wrong!
Ørsted Starts Building Hornsea Three's Kittiwake Artificial Nesting Structures
Ørsted Starts Building Hornsea Three's Kittiwake Artificial Nesting Structures
penfold
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No need; between the govt and V Putin the price of electrons is up and will be up for the duration. Market forces will do the rest.
Daydream believer
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Is one allowed to shoot them all the year round, or is there just a short open season.
I can see quite a demand for ex army, 50mm calibre machine guns, in the offing, when the Ukraine situation ends.
LittleSister
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I've told on here before that, some years ago a policy was being developed to control where (land based) wind farms could be developed in south-west Ireland, where I was living at the time.
It was decided they shouldn't be on the coast (spectacularly scenic and important for tourist industry), mountain tops, or close to settlements. The resulting area where they could be developed was generally poor quality agricultural land, but also, it turned out, just the sort of place that Hen Harriers, a protected species, liked to live. Suddenly lots of Hen Harriers were being shot by farmers anxious to get on the new windfarm gravy train!
It was decided they shouldn't be on the coast (spectacularly scenic and important for tourist industry), mountain tops, or close to settlements. The resulting area where they could be developed was generally poor quality agricultural land, but also, it turned out, just the sort of place that Hen Harriers, a protected species, liked to live. Suddenly lots of Hen Harriers were being shot by farmers anxious to get on the new windfarm gravy train!
tillergirl
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Explanation to Penfold: because of the expansion on the wind farms off shore of Suffolk there is a plan for a line of pylons from the coast across Suffolk and Essex to Tilbury. The Nimby's do not want pylons across Suffolk and want the Govn to lay the power lines at sea down the coast to Tilbury. They are arguing the need for the wildlife and scenery to be preserved.
The local TV news did a piece on the 'Kittiwake problem in Lowestoft' last week and it is fair to say it is quite a big problem.
The local TV news did a piece on the 'Kittiwake problem in Lowestoft' last week and it is fair to say it is quite a big problem.
Daydream believer
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You may call them NIMBYS & in many cases they are just a pain in the neck. But regards this project, having listened to the BBC (any bias accepted) article on the matter, I do feel that they have a case. I am not in favour of miles of pylons across the countryside. A sub sea option seems better.
Of course they seem to think that cable laying is just that, stretching a cable on the sea bed. Presumably it would need a trench dug in said sea bed first. We all know the damage a CQR (Allegedly) does to seagrass & sea horses, so if one encountered a cable with a million volts in it it could cause havoc. Not to mention a ship grounded over one that was crossing the shipping lane by the Sunk diversionary zone, or Felixtowe approach. Hence it is not quite as simple as the article seemed to suggest.
penfold
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There's a large opportunity cost attached to either a subterranean or a subsea cable; both cost multiples of overhead cables. What would those who object like to forego to pay for the extra?
john_morris_uk
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There’s also a question of energy security.
Daydream believer
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At the risk of upsetting the mods. If we (the UK) really wanted that, we would have a different strategy towards energy in the first place
penfold
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s'alright; energy policy is directly to do with primate warming.
Biggles Wader
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As the Archbishop said to the just stop oil activist------
