Mooring Tackle - who owns it ?

[Capt Popeye]

Well its getting around to that time of year again when I approach the local Harbour Authority about mooring or sometimes moorings in the Teign again

The Authority for Drying Moorings offer a service, where new applicants, when offered a mooring, are Invoiced for - laying it, supplying the following - sinker, rising chain, buoy, marking buoy - the contract states that the responsibilty for annual (or other) servicing / maintainence is the resposibilty of the mooring occupant

When in the past I heve vacated the mooring I have left the Tackle behind

This time I am asking to return to a previous mooring (2019) and use the same ground tackle/buoy etc, but as having already paid for such items in 2019 , they are still there, goodcondition, what is the present charge to me

I am waiting for a reply

So whats the experience from other similar Mooring renters in other rivers ?

 

[Neeves]

In Oz

We own the block(s) and all the bits and pieces. When we vacate the mooring we have to take the block(s) and bits and pieces with us or sell them to the mooring contractor (who sold them to us in the first place) or to someone else. Not sure how you find 'someone else' as the most likely people to know would be ....... the mooring contractor. The mooring blocks are big lumps of concrete. Ours is 2 blocks, 1t and 0.5t.

We also pay for an annual service. We need to provide proof of service to the authority from whom we lease the bit of seabed we inhabit.

Not entirely relevant to your location

Jonathan

 

[TernVI]

I don't think it's unusual in the UK for mooring contracts to require that at the end, you remove any tackle which isn't sold on to a new occupant.
How often this is enforced might be a separate question.

Sometimes these sales of hardware become a backdoor payment for 'the right' to rent the mooring.

One might take the view that the OP either owes last year's rent, or a fee to cover removing the mooring.

 

[longjohnsilver]

I dive and service my own mooring on the Exe. I pay for everything, chains, shackles, buoys etc.

However if I asked a third party to remove my hardware and place elsewhere I would expect them to charge for their time.

 

[doug748]

My experience pretty much ties in with Neeves and Tern.

As an aside, had you kept the mooring you would have had two years maintenance to pay and, presumably, little or no use of it. I think the Harbour Authority may take the line that they took back responsibility for the mooring, when you no longer wanted it and the clock is reset.

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[PhillM]

This does raise the question of how much the mooring gear costs. I was told only yesterday that there was a number of buoys (Hamble). This is the wording offered:

"....will require total replacement of mooring tackle - estimated to cost between £3000 and £5000."

It seemed an extraordinary sum to me.

 

[chriss999]

This does raise the question of how much the mooring gear costs. I was told only yesterday that there was a number of buoys (Hamble). This is the wording offered:

"....will require total replacement of mooring tackle - estimated to cost between £3000 and £5000."

It seemed an extraordinary sum to me.

I paid £1000 to replace mine last year. Concrete block, chain, swivel & shackles. Re-used the mooring buoy and pickup so saved a bit. A smaller boat than average so not directly comparable to your example.

The ground is rented but the hardware is mine. I’m not planning to take it with me.

 

[TernVI]

This does raise the question of how much the mooring gear costs. I was told only yesterday that there was a number of buoys (Hamble). This is the wording offered:

"....will require total replacement of mooring tackle - estimated to cost between £3000 and £5000."

It seemed an extraordinary sum to me.

If you've got to take a barge and 3 blokes for the day to lay one mooring, it won't be cheap.
If you can do several in one outing, it is more reasonable.
Sometimes, it's two outings, one to lift the old kit, maybe involving a diver, another to lay refurbished kit.
If it's unknown old stuff, there can be a lot of faffing around, it would often I suspect, be cheaper to start on an empty seabed than to be lumbered with what the previous occupant has left behind.