Mooring ettiquite.......

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We were parked up in Newton Ferrars on the BH weekend, which was heaving with visitors,

Malo comes in latish, and is advised by HM to pick up a residents mooring,

abought 9.30pm resident returns, and of course their is a almighty kerfufal, with lots of grief being passed too and fro,,, much huffing and puffing by resident,, who insists on throwing Malo off of his mooring so he can have it back.

So Poor guy on Malo is left wandering around in the dark in a tightish harbour with tide running trying to find a new spot...

Now those particular moorings are pretty stought, So surely the gentlemanly thing to have done would have been to raft up?
 
The returning character was a twerp. He pays peanuts for one of the finest moorings on the south coast, and knows full well the local custom is to allocate local moorings to visitors when vacant, without a tender. Going away he should have let the harbourmaster know of his probable return and if getting back early should have shown tolerance. If the situation is as described he ought to be booted off his mooring and out of his club. Apart from that he is probably a nice chap but no yachtsman.
 
Local: "Hello there! Lovely place isn't it? Did you know that's my mooring you're on? We need to moor up and leave the boat until next week. Would you like to move off for a few minutes and then come and raft up to us when we're properly secured? Many thanks!"

(10 minutes later)

Visitor: "Many thanks. That's great! Come aboard and have a drink with us."

... or is there something we don't know about - differences in length or deck height or available swinging area, perhaps - that would have made rafting inappropriate?
 
Sorry to disagree with th emain stream but "my mooring, I paid for it, you are on it, sod off NOW"

Already had a number of problem with "visitors" taking the piss - NO MORE. I really don't give a flying "F" if some harbour master told them to use MY mooring. They can sling their hook elsewhere.
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Looking at it from the POV of the resident, it's a pain to find your mooring has been nicked when arriving back at night and I'm sure my first reaction would have been 'what the f*** are you doing there'. A bit of common sense and compromise would have smoothed things over but some people love to stand on their rights and we know there are plenty of people who won't agree to rafting even on town quays.

But really there is one important lesson to be learned: when Mark Fishwick says stay away from Newton Ferrers in peak season, listen to him! More so as the outer visitors buoys we've used in the past have now been let as permanent moorings.
 
My Goodness, Cliff! I thought that avatar was a stock image, but it would seem that is actually a video of you - and your head would seem to be sore!

OK, so some visitors are idiots; does that necessarily mean that residents should behave as badly as them?

Chill & enjoy a beer /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
The mooring in question at NF is probably Cliff's........... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

We have a slightly different mooring story - boat was ashore, and I wanted to check up on the mooring, so paddled out in the dinghy, and tied up to it. Big day charter catamaran toodles up 5 mins later, and starts giving me a right old earful for being in the way of picking up 'his' mooring...... so we left, let him tie up to it, and then came alongside and politely told him whose mooring he happened to be squatting on..... poor lad did turn rather red, and he did apologise, and I told him he was most welcome to use it until we went back in the water.
So we were all friends again. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Hmm. Difficult. All I can say about NF is that I'm quite happy to anchor in Cellar Bay, or further out if the weather is very quiet. NF does get so crowded it isn't remotely funny anymore.

If it is Cliff's mooring (or whomever), he could come halfway and get the rent each time the HM tries renting it out. There's always mobiles and the signal gets surprisingly far out to sea so nasty late night surprises can be avoided if plans change.

Or a sign on the bouy; "bad tempered owner - don't even think of mooring here".

Or how about a matrix sign on NF Heads " NF Full" or "NF Spaces available"? I bet the HM could stump up a machine; "please take a ticket - you are 75 in the queue".

Worth a try.
 
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Sorry to disagree with th emain stream but "my mooring, I paid for it, you are on it, sod off NOW"

Already had a number of problem with "visitors" taking the piss - NO MORE. I really don't give a flying "F" if some harbour master told them to use MY mooring. They can sling their hook elsewhere.
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Ya know...................I don't think I could have put it more succinctly myself! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
A condition of leasing a mooring in the Yealm is that if you are returning to the a dinghy is left on the mooring . No dinghy then HM can allocate to visitors . -----Or thats what it use to be.
 
Or you can leave a little sign on it as well,,,, the mooring that was picked up had neither, We had gone past it about an hour previous.

Their is a pretty clear ettiquette at NF, and like Haydn, I have never had a problem getting a spot their, usually alonside the pontton..
 
Our etiquette as explained on our website and other information is - "you're welcome to pick up a vacant mooring for the night, subject to the usual courtesies of its owner returns" we've never had to describe what "the usual courtesies" are - but put simply it means that if the owner returns -you move. I once returned from a trip to Holland at 0530 to find someone on my mooring - he was nonplussed to be woken at that hour but moved willingly on to a vacant mooring nearby.

Simon
 
I came back to my mooring after 10 days away to find someone had chewed up all my lines, with there prop cutters.I now tell em to f off /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gifI don't go in the marina and cut up there lines.
 
Reading some of the rants on this thread I am forced to question what has happened to manners? Time was, before I was born, that one could happily find spaces to anchor but the proliferation of laid moorings, marinas etc and growth of sailing as a pass time means it is increasingly difficult. For goodness sake have some tolerance and, if met with poor manners, rise above it.
 
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Or a sign on the bouy; "bad tempered owner - don't even think of mooring here".

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