miketomison
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Anyone ever managed to remove heads exit piping from behind vanity unit and sink.
Moody 38cc Heads exit pipe
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Tranona
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Probably best addressed to the Moody Owners Association site. www.moodyowners.net
Martin_J
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If it is similar to the Moody s38 (1997) installation you will (as I guess you already have!) find that the pipe is cable tied to the outside hull at various points behind the moulding...
I believe the MoodyOwners information exchange (login required) pages do show examples of exactly where to cut.
In the s38 I worked out by using a torch/mirror where the best place would be to cut an inspection hole in the heads. I now have a single 4" inspection hole fitted to the side/rear of the moulding with one of those dinghy style removable covers fitted. From there I could reach both up and down to cut the relevant ties. Note - I do have small arm and hands!
For better access behind the upper fitted cupboards I do have replacement panels fitted to most of the cupboard backs.. Just a 5mm thick piece of wood in the same colour as the existing cubpoard back panel and you would not know they were not the original cupboard backs.
PS - Most of the cable ties you will see are large and not tied tightly anyway so leave them in place and feed the new hose (which will be much more supple) through them to save time cutting and re-attaching....
I believe the MoodyOwners information exchange (login required) pages do show examples of exactly where to cut.
In the s38 I worked out by using a torch/mirror where the best place would be to cut an inspection hole in the heads. I now have a single 4" inspection hole fitted to the side/rear of the moulding with one of those dinghy style removable covers fitted. From there I could reach both up and down to cut the relevant ties. Note - I do have small arm and hands!
For better access behind the upper fitted cupboards I do have replacement panels fitted to most of the cupboard backs.. Just a 5mm thick piece of wood in the same colour as the existing cubpoard back panel and you would not know they were not the original cupboard backs.
PS - Most of the cable ties you will see are large and not tied tightly anyway so leave them in place and feed the new hose (which will be much more supple) through them to save time cutting and re-attaching....
VADROUILLE
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I have a moody 38, 1992
Which heads are you on about?
Which heads are you on about?
miketomison
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Moody 38 cc Heads
My 38 was the last one they made and had a single heads amidships on port side
My 38 was the last one they made and had a single heads amidships on port side
miketomison
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Moody 38 cc Heads pipe
Thanks to Tranona and Martin J. I will contact them.
Thanks to Tranona and Martin J. I will contact them.
VADROUILLE
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Ah, must be very different to mine. The vintage versions like mine have 2 heads.
If your not member of the association then its well worth joining, the technical libary and forum is worth its weight in gold.
Plenty of knowlege on any moody found in the info exchange section
AIDY
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No need for additional inspection hatch on an S38 other than whats in the cupboards from new. both the lockers / cupboards in the forward aft heads come out quite easily on an S38, allowing you to get your whole arm down the back to cut cable ties and replace pipe.
note martin and I are talking about an S38 not a CC38
Skysail
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Mike,
www.moodyowners.net
You want the Information Exchange; there is a question already there on your subject, you can find that by searching for " Replacement of sanitary hoses - Moody 38CC (1994)" and an article in the Technical Library.
To access these you will need to be a member - £20 but you will recover that in short order!
Any problems, PM me.
www.moodyowners.net
You want the Information Exchange; there is a question already there on your subject, you can find that by searching for " Replacement of sanitary hoses - Moody 38CC (1994)" and an article in the Technical Library.
To access these you will need to be a member - £20 but you will recover that in short order!
Any problems, PM me.
Richard10002
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I removed the pipe from both my M44 heads by cutting the pipe and the ties in appropriate places.
I fitted the new one by fitting a mouse line through two holes made in one end, and feeding/pulling it through.
Took the best part of two days, on and off. Most of the time was spent thinking about what to do as the next step.
e.g. The decision to cut the pipe and the ties probably took a few hours, as it could have gone horribly wrong.
Trying to remove the vanity fittings probably took a few more hours, before giving up and making the decision to cut.
Good luck!!
The ties are not necessary when refitting. Even the biggest hurricane wouldn't shift the pipe, given the way it's jammed in.
I fitted the new one by fitting a mouse line through two holes made in one end, and feeding/pulling it through.
Took the best part of two days, on and off. Most of the time was spent thinking about what to do as the next step.
e.g. The decision to cut the pipe and the ties probably took a few hours, as it could have gone horribly wrong.
Trying to remove the vanity fittings probably took a few more hours, before giving up and making the decision to cut.
Good luck!!
The ties are not necessary when refitting. Even the biggest hurricane wouldn't shift the pipe, given the way it's jammed in.
miketomison
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Moody 38cc
Thanks to Richard,Skysail and Aidy. The problem with this Moody is there are few of them. I bought it new but probably use it 3 or 4 times as much as most people.I could well be the first to do this maintenance.
The heads pipe exits through a vanity unit which at one meter off the sole and is recessed close to the hull. This area is covered by a huge mirror. The pipe is in there - great joy.There is no access from either side. I do not think I could be lucky enough to get the mirror off in one bit so it looks like protecting the whole area and chipping it off. Why Moody did not fix the mirror on a timber frame before installation........Once the mirror comes off I can make inspection hatches and fit a new mirror on a board to hide the holes. After that it goes behind a wet locker but I have no fear in cutting inspection holes there and fixing with small off the shelf fittings. I will actually start there in case I can squeeze my way into the pipe. A two hour job becomes a two/three day job because of manufacturing stupidity. Harrumph.
Thanks to Richard,Skysail and Aidy. The problem with this Moody is there are few of them. I bought it new but probably use it 3 or 4 times as much as most people.I could well be the first to do this maintenance.
The heads pipe exits through a vanity unit which at one meter off the sole and is recessed close to the hull. This area is covered by a huge mirror. The pipe is in there - great joy.There is no access from either side. I do not think I could be lucky enough to get the mirror off in one bit so it looks like protecting the whole area and chipping it off. Why Moody did not fix the mirror on a timber frame before installation........Once the mirror comes off I can make inspection hatches and fit a new mirror on a board to hide the holes. After that it goes behind a wet locker but I have no fear in cutting inspection holes there and fixing with small off the shelf fittings. I will actually start there in case I can squeeze my way into the pipe. A two hour job becomes a two/three day job because of manufacturing stupidity. Harrumph.
VADROUILLE
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Classic moody design. Most people have reasonable access to there keel bolts. Not on a moody 38, i have to remove all the wood work around the fuel tank, then remove my fuel tank to get any sight of the two bolts under there.
Then there is the chain plates hiden by wood in the sallon that you cant get to, and like your heads, my aft heads has to be removed if i need to change my toilet pipe.
Trouble is, they built such good solid, sturdy boats, they thought they would never go wrong and nothing would need replacing. Thats just not the case!!!