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Assuming you payed cash for the boat, how much is the average monthly cost of a fb in the manhattan 64-66? My superhawk had an average of $3000-$4000, that includes mooring ($2000 per month) Monthly service ($500), getting the boat cleaned twice a week($500), paying for the diver to clean the boat ($100 each time) and the rest goes for servicing supplies for the boat.
Now I know that the manhattan's monthly is gonna practically double, mooring (slip) being in the $3000 range, monthly service around $750-1000, cleaning about $150 per wash, but is there anything else?
What's your average monthly? I live in the US so it might be different.
 
sunseeking said:
Assuming you payed cash for the boat, how much is the average monthly cost of a fb in the manhattan 64-66? My superhawk had an average of $3000-$4000, that includes mooring ($2000 per month) Monthly service ($500), getting the boat cleaned twice a week($500), paying for the diver to clean the boat ($100 each time) and the rest goes for servicing supplies for the boat.
Now I know that the manhattan's monthly is gonna practically double, mooring (slip) being in the $3000 range, monthly service around $750-1000, cleaning about $150 per wash, but is there anything else?
What's your average monthly? I live in the US so it might be different.
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Are you for real? - If you are spending that much it either doesn't matter, or you should be asking your accountant.
FWIW - I spend €2000 per YEAR on mooring (including electricity) I wash the boat once a year (no cost) and I service my engines myself once a year €300
Mind you, I only have a twin engine 37 footer - you would probably have a bigger tender than that.
 
DRM MARINE VALETING said:
What a dream customer, having your boat cleaned twice a week. Most regular washes are once a month, I can only imagine pelicans with the squits perch on your boat! :):eek:


drmvaletingservices@o2.co.uk
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I use my boat (superhawk) a lot especially in the summer (more than twice a week) how can you have a boat washed once a month when you go out at least twice a week/ 8 times a month. Now of course I wouldn't have a manhattan washed twice a week, but I think once a week in the summer and twice a month when the boat is not being used that much is good.
 
sunseeking said:
I use my boat (superhawk) a lot especially in the summer (more than twice a week) how can you have a boat washed once a month when you go out at least twice a week/ 8 times a month. Now of course I wouldn't have a manhattan washed twice a week, but I think once a week in the summer and twice a month when the boat is not being used that much is good.
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Monthly service ($500),

$6000 pa for what exactly?
 
Sunseeking, the disbelief comes from the fact you are in US and others are here in UK. The prevailing practices differ. UK boat owners (typically, at the individual level it obviously varies) often only have boats washed once/month or less and in a typical UK marina it's considered normal to have silver/grey teak. In contrast, in other countries the normal priactices are different. In the French and some parts of the Spanish Med the normal practice would be considered OCD in the UK. My boat (in France) is (detail) washed every time it goes to sea and weekly when docked, and the decks are done every couple of weeks so they're never grey/silver, and every inch of stainless steel is polished at least once every couple of weeks, and that's totally normal in the med where detailing standards are generally very high.

I'm not sure anyone can help you on costs though. US prices are just different. In the Med you often buy a slip rather than rent it. FWIW I pay a monthly salary to one crew person (on a say 17-20m boat; it would be 1.5 to 2 persons on a 25m) and that covers the labour element of all the cleaning and shopping etc, and I think at this size boat that makes sense. If you pay a servicing firm their rates include all their overheads and profit, so it makes more sense just to hire someone full time to make the boat sparkle, imho
 
Grubby and dark carpet affectionados fight back !

"UK boat owners (typically, at the individual level it obviously varies) often only have boats washed once/month or less."

As you can now see and as JFM has thoughtfully pointed out before,we (the english) are a thoroughly disreputable and unkempt bunch of reprobates who like nothing better than to marinate in our own squalor esp in our firm insistance for furnishing our somewhat modest craft with dark carpet in order to avoid the expence of cleaning at any point in the foreseeable future and firm belief that a good old rain shower is perfectly adequate to do any boat cleaning duties.:):):)
 
oldgit said:
As you can now see and as JFM has thoughtfully pointed out before,we (the english) are a thoroughly disreputable and unkempt bunch of reprobates who like nothing better than to marinate in our own squalor
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Hey, I'm saying it as i see it :D. Walk round any UK marina and you see loads of boats with grey teak decks. There are other countries where you'd just never see that. The teak would be washed often and straw brown in colour. Over on PBO forum, UK folks actually say grey decks is normal and a good thing, ffs! :D :D :D

PS, I'm English too. Yorkshire in fact, God's own county:D
 
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I think jfm's disagreement with Oldgit shows the problem
You just cant generalise
Apart from the obvious conflict above, there are so many differences in countries - even differences between Med countries. Spain is very different to France for example.

A lift and relaunch on the River Hamble in the UK would cost in the region of 1200/1500 GBP for my 20m flybridge Princess.
In Spain I can get the boat lifted, washed and relaunched for less that 100 euros (about 90 GBP)
See - everything is relative to the geographical area you keep your boat.

BTW have a close look at Princess/Viking (the US brand) - particularly have a look at the Princess 67 - I havent mentioned it to date but IMO, the P67 is the first (smallest) of the proper flybridges - dinghy storage on the flybridge - good sized living accomodation and a full beam mid cabin - and not to she was the last of the British boats to have an internal staircase to the flybridge.
Thats my three pennyworth anyway - sorry a British colloquialism.
 
Hurricane said:
I think jfm's disagreement with Oldgit shows the problem
You just cant generalise
Apart from the obvious conflict above, there are so many differences in countries - even differences between Med countries. Spain is very different to France for example.

A lift and relaunch on the River Hamble in the UK would cost in the region of 1200/1500 GBP for my 20m flybridge Princess.
In Spain I can get the boat lifted, washed and relaunched for less that 100 euros (about 90 GBP)
See - everything is relative to the geographical area you keep your boat.

BTW have a close look at Princess/Viking (the US brand) - particularly have a look at the Princess 67 - I havent mentioned it to date but IMO, the P67 is the first (smallest) of the proper flybridges - dinghy storage on the flybridge - good sized living accomodation and a full beam mid cabin - and not to she was the last of the British boats to have an internal staircase to the flybridge.
Thats my three pennyworth anyway - sorry a British colloquialism.
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Do you know of any boat other than sunseeker that has a hydraulic platform? I like the fact that you could have a jet ski and easily launch it and get it back on board
 
sunseeking said:
Do you know of any boat other than sunseeker that has a hydraulic platform? I like the fact that you could have a jet ski and easily launch it and get it back on board
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Bigger Princesses (Viking), and recentish Fairline Sq 55/65/70/78 have up down platforms. But if you went with Hurricane's p67 suggestion you wouldn't need one. The crane on the flybridge will swing over the swim platform and put the jetski there. You could carry a RIB and a jetski, and launch them both quite easily, and even swap their positions as much as you wanted, using the single flybridge crane. Pretty good solution

There is a nice p67 for sale in Thailand with retrofitted fin stabilisers (Trac, iirc). That would be a great crusiing boat. A bit of hassle to get it to SoCal, but it proves the conversion can be done if you wanted. And as Hurric says, 2 staircases (which the hattan 64 has too)
 
jfm said:
My boat (in France) is (detail) washed every time it goes to sea and weekly when docked, and the decks are done every couple of weeks so they're never grey/silver, and every inch of stainless steel is polished at least once every couple of weeks, and that's totally normal in the med where detailing standards are generally very high.
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Blimey, I've never seen a 'normal' boat cleaning regime like that in the Med. Maybe in posh places like Antibes but not in the seedier places I moor in. I pay somebody to wash my boat after we go home and then again before we arrive the next time and monthly during low season. Judging by the red sand encrusted boats around me when I was in Majorca, my cleaning regime was at the fastidious end of the scale. As for paying somebody for fixed price guardiennage, what seems to happen is that somebody frantically washes the boat 20mins before the owner arrives but otherwise it's completely neglected
 
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