Mobo forum - odd

Hmmm.... Well I've heard a few rumblings at the club from those with the 50 footers complaining about the hike from 24p to 44p over the lase year or so.
When it's £1,000 to fill up it hurts!
 
For me, it's not going to stop me using the boat. I guess the gym membership might have to go, and probably take one less holiday a year.

What annoys me is this ruling has not come from our ELECTED representitives, but as a dictat from and unelected group in a state I didn't vote for.

Can someone please tell me what Europe does for us?
 
apparently the tax is only applied once existing, untaxed, stocks are replenished with taxed fuel. so ... have found several 205lt steel drums and trundled them down to fuel berth. all i need are suggestions what to do with the drums? will they float if i tie them together and tow them?
 
It dose lots!!
It prevents govenments from borrowing (as Italy used to do a lot and sucssesfuly)therefor taxes have to be raised, It insists on a minimum VAT as thats where its money comes from.

It make governments make sure we all pay taxes therefore starting a bussiness is by now unrealistic in many cases (i know a lot of Italians that cant work becouse the start up costs are to high)

It make daft rules aimed at protecting compleat fools and makeing tools hard to use for normal people

It also provides "jobs" for freinds and relatives of the EEC though at only £12000 a month plus expenses for a secratary it must be hard to pay the shopping?

Its also insisted on boat driveing licenses reduced the towing limit for new drivers of cars and landrovers

It also gives very generously to Palastine African dictators that those "leaders" can live in luxuary often in Europe!!

And its bannde the use of cellulouse (for respraying cars)replaced by water paint which takes weeks to dry in an expensive heated (pollution) cabin instead of 10 mins with cellulose

Its also made small roads wider that larger and larger trucks can thunder through small village while privatiseing trains to no existence

Its done so much harm its just amazing!

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THE POLL:
It cant be right!
If you think that an average mobo say 26/30 footer will have a 200 liter tank (about 50 gallons)And thats enoungh to go say from St Maxim to the Islands off Cannes or to Port cross and back.

In Europe 1 liter costs 1 euro in the UK you say it costs 44p a gallon umm (why gallons??Ill have to write to the EEC to standardise you!!) then 4 lites=44p so 1 liter=11p or £22.00 for 200 liters if you go out twice a month thats 400liters plus another 100 liters a week for pottering about or 800 liters a month=9600 per year or 10,000 euros which is about £4000 pa!!

Anyway i know several boats that spend between 600 & 800 euros pm when only a few years ago it would have been 400 to 600 euros If we used heating oil that costs 67 cents a liter or 40% less which would if we could retern our fule costs to per euro prices!!!
Perhaps if we got rid of the euro people would see just how bad the price rises have been /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

The poll just goes to show how few have any idea what they really are spending on Fule!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
The poll is being skewed by Raggies voting to see how much MOBOs are being squeezed. Ain't human nature unpleasant.
You (we) should all be ashamed !
 
only fair you vote Tom - we are all boaters on here (most of the time!).

last year in St PP a large raggie had just arrived from Falmouth and was rather surprised, and slightly agrived, that we had taken taken 13 hours less time to get there from Poole but used only a little more fuel - in fairness he was 45ft to my 25 though!
 
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all i need are suggestions what to do with the drums? will they float if i tie them together and tow them?

[/ QUOTE ] Should do, diesel is quite a bit less dense than water. Approx 0.87 in fact. So 205 litres sholud be sufficiently buoyant to support a drum weighing upto 32.8 kg in seawater (density 1.03) even with no air space in the drum.
 
"last year in St PP a large raggie had just arrived from Falmouth and was rather surprised, and slightly agrived, that we had taken taken 13 hours less time to get there from Poole but used only a little more fuel - in fairness he was 45ft to my 25 though!"

He probably had felt better if he had sailed instead of motoring...even if it had taken him yet more hours.
 
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He probably had felt better if he had sailed instead of motoring...even if it had taken him yet more hours.

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If he enjoyed some of the same weather that we did last year he may well have had to motor, some days saw less than 3 - 4knts of wind.
 
Just so long as you don't lash it behind you as I'll hit it on my way out (or syphon some out).

Feeling pretty smug as I topped up with 60 litres the other day before all this lot happened. I wonder if that'll last another 2 years?
 
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THE POLL:
In Europe 1 liter costs 1 euro in the UK you say it costs 44p a gallon umm (why gallons??Ill have to write to the EEC to standardise you!!) then 4 lites=44p so 1 liter=11p or £22.00 for 200 liters if you go out twice a month thats 400liters plus another 100 liters a week for pottering about or 800 liters a month=9600 per year or 10,000 euros which is about £4000 pa!!


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FWIW

In the UK it is 44p PER LITRE, (not gallon).... actually I have paid between about 46p and 60p per litre.

UK Pre Tax:

9600 litres p.a. @ say 50p per litre = £4800p.a = 7000 euros

UK Post Tax:

9600 litres p.a. @ say 90p per litre = £8640 = 12500 euros

Europe:

9600 litres p.a. @ 1 euro per litre = 9600 euros = £6600
 
Gosh!!!!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Im shocked!!!!!!No wonder the red diesel question!!!!!At that price we would, im sure give up the bertram and buy something sailing with a 1 cylinder turbo!!

Or go back to an alpa 11.50 and old s&s sail boat with a twin ferryman she sails very well in light med airs as she was built in St Rappael and Milan for the med

44p a liter wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

why dont you all come down to the med??Be great fun these days you could "virtualy" work?? And going to be 90P wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww a liter wow gosh thats stagering!! It is impossiable to vote Brown out??Isent it?? Just read today that Brits are leaving at 1000 a day & replace by 2000 africans a day ? Dosent sound well for a skilled uk in the years to come

wouldent bank on a UK pension!!!

90P a LITER wow wow gosh thats a lot! ill have to down grade my 6hp Johnson to a 2 HP 4 stroke!!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Immigration

"Just read today that Brits are leaving at 1000 a day & replace by 2000 africans a day ? Dosent sound well for a skilled uk in the years to come"

There's a non-tabloid piece about immigration here.

This stuff hasn't been widely reported in the UK press AFAIK, because it's not what the Daily Mail reader wants to hear.
 
wouldent bank on a UK pension!!!

Trouville, please dont say things like that! I had rather hoped people would stay and work in the uk, I have 11 years to pension age /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I have a petrol engined boat, it does not seem that bad at 92 cents per litre.
 
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Can someone please tell me what Europe does for us?

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Is this the cue to start a Monty Python sketch?
 
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