MMSI Numbers (mini rant)

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I am in the process of moving the registration of Stingo to the UK Part 1 registry . One of the things that I have to do is change the MMSI number in my VHF and AIS. It looks like I will have to remove them, find an approved Icom and Raymarine dealer with the correct cables and software, prove I own the items, hand over a pile of beer tokens, refit the stuff. My two EPRIB's will also need to be reprogrammed.

What a palava!
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stingo said:
[mini rant]
I am in the process of moving the registration of Stingo to the UK Part 1 registry . One of the things that I have to do is change the MMSI number in my VHF and AIS. It looks like I will have to remove them, find an approved Icom and Raymarine dealer with the correct cables and software, prove I own the items, hand over a pile of beer tokens, refit the stuff. My two EPRIB's will also need to be reprogrammed.

What a palava!
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Presumably you are re-registering it on another register, in which case you must have an MMSI and your EPIRBs registered in that country. And yes, it is a palaver. When I changed the registration of my boat fortunately the previous owner had not entered the MMSI in the (then new) radio. EPIRB cost about £60 including test and postage - but at least came back by return.
 
stingo said:
[mini rant]
I am in the process of moving the registration of Stingo to the UK Part 1 registry . One of the things that I have to do is change the MMSI number in my VHF and AIS. It looks like I will have to remove them, find an approved Icom and Raymarine dealer with the correct cables and software, prove I own the items, hand over a pile of beer tokens, refit the stuff. My two EPRIB's will also need to be reprogrammed.

What a palava!
[/mini rant]
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Bugger, I went on part 3 because I didn't have a hull number. Now this has been resolved, I want to go on part 1. Will I have to change everything too?? Or is it only because you're moving from another country?
 
nigelmercier said:
AFAIK, you don't need to programme the EPIRBS, they just keep a cross reference between the S/N and your MMSI.
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Who is "they"?

My understanding is that the SARSAT system sends the alert to the ground station belonging to the country encoded in the EPIRB ID (not the MMSI). For EPIRBs bought in the UK, that's Falmouth. So transferring an EPIRB between British yachts doesn't need any reprogramming, because Falmouth can just update their records, but if your EPIRB is registered in Elbonia then it's the Elbonian Coastguard who'll get the call. What will they do if there's no corresponding ship in the Elbonian registry? I guess that varies from country to country, but personally I'd rather my alert went straight to Falmouth.

Pete
 
It's a new MMSI, so the EPIRBs need to be redone. I had a South African MMSI number due to an admin error when the boat was built, despite being on UK SSR. Was too much palava to sort out at the time, what with everything else in life that harpoons you along the way.

And the palava continues. Cardiff want the original builders certificate (I have a scanned copy) or the original invoice as proof of ownership. The builder went tits-up a nanosecond after my boat was shoved out of the factory. I thought I had the original invoice in my "life file". I thought wrong. This is going to be an interesting few weeks trying to join the dots and jump through the hoops.
 
stingo said:
It's a new MMSI, so the EPIRBs need to be redone.
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Sure, but as Nigel says, there is no MMSI stored in an EPIRB. The code which is sent is generally referred to as a "hex id" because it's printed in hexadecimal. It encodes the country and a few other things (someone posted a link to the official standard a while back) but not MMSI. If your EPIRB was first sold in the UK you don't need to reprogram it, just send a new form to the MCA.

Pete
 
prv said:
Sure, but as Nigel says, there is no MMSI stored in an EPIRB. The code which is sent is generally referred to as a "hex id" because it's printed in hexadecimal. It encodes the country and a few other things (someone posted a link to the official standard a while back) but not MMSI. If your EPIRB was first sold in the UK you don't need to reprogram it, just send a new form to the MCA.

Pete
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Good to know. Thank you.
 
stingo said:
It's a new MMSI, so the EPIRBs need to be redone. I had a South African MMSI number due to an admin error when the boat was built, despite being on UK SSR. Was too much palava to sort out at the time, what with everything else in life that harpoons you along the way.

And the palava continues. Cardiff want the original builders certificate (I have a scanned copy) or the original invoice as proof of ownership. The builder went tits-up a nanosecond after my boat was shoved out of the factory. I thought I had the original invoice in my "life file". I thought wrong. This is going to be an interesting few weeks trying to join the dots and jump through the hoops.
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you don't need the build cert unless its quite a new boat. You have to prove proof of ownership for a time, I think it's 5 years.
 
Some companies allow you to re-programme the MMSI numbers yourself. Often they just need a few special keystrokes to do it. I had one can't remember the make and you had to disconnect the power hold down power and the "16" button at the same time and them power up again for a factory re-set, it was a nightmare because you needed three hands and eventually I got a call from the coastguard asking me to disconnect the ariel whilst doing it :o I got it in the end and it cost me nothing.
 
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