Misuse of For Sale section
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paulrossall
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Re: blatent misuse of For Sale section
steve28 I agree. Kim should sort the problem out and ban the poster. Paul
steve28 I agree. Kim should sort the problem out and ban the poster. Paul
SteveGorst
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Re: blatent misuse of For Sale section
Presumably when someone goes to the for sale section it is because they want to buy something. Then it must be in their interest to find as wide a selection of goods for sale as possible as it increases their chance of finding what they are looking for.
If someone has posted something for sale on ebay that is relevent to us what is the harm in them letting us know about it via the For Sale section. It does save us the effort of trawling eBay and it widens the selection of goods available.
Steve
Presumably when someone goes to the for sale section it is because they want to buy something. Then it must be in their interest to find as wide a selection of goods for sale as possible as it increases their chance of finding what they are looking for.
If someone has posted something for sale on ebay that is relevent to us what is the harm in them letting us know about it via the For Sale section. It does save us the effort of trawling eBay and it widens the selection of goods available.
Steve
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Re: blatent misuse of For Sale section
It gets me steamed up because every forum I have used, not all sailing, have had the buy and sell abused and taken over by commercial interests, to the point where they have been removed.
If we do not stop it early it will get out of hand. I think links to private sales on ebay should also be banned. I have bought a few items from the for sale board and would hate to see it removed.
It gets me steamed up because every forum I have used, not all sailing, have had the buy and sell abused and taken over by commercial interests, to the point where they have been removed.
If we do not stop it early it will get out of hand. I think links to private sales on ebay should also be banned. I have bought a few items from the for sale board and would hate to see it removed.
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Anonymous
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Re: blatent misuse of For Sale section
It doesn't seem to be causing a problem at the moment - why not leave it until it becomes one? Surely, the fewer rules and regs the better?
It doesn't seem to be causing a problem at the moment - why not leave it until it becomes one? Surely, the fewer rules and regs the better?
SteveGorst
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Re: blatent misuse of For Sale section
Re I think links to private sales on ebay should also be banned.
Why?
Isn't it a good vehicle for enabling smooth transactions.
Re I think links to private sales on ebay should also be banned.
Why?
Isn't it a good vehicle for enabling smooth transactions.
Inform the moderator!
If you think a post is outside of the rules then we can help Kim out by identifying the post. At the bottom of the post is the "Post Extras" and you can click on the "Notify Moderator" icon and then "Yes". If he finds it unacceptable then he removes it. He was pretty quick to take action the time I did this.
If you think a post is outside of the rules then we can help Kim out by identifying the post. At the bottom of the post is the "Post Extras" and you can click on the "Notify Moderator" icon and then "Yes". If he finds it unacceptable then he removes it. He was pretty quick to take action the time I did this.
pvb
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Dear Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells...
OK, as I'm one of the "offenders", let me apologise for upsetting you so much. I posted a link to the eBay listing of my Navman plotter because I thought some forum members might be interested. I didn't give any details on the "For Sale" forum; I didn't list a price on the "For Sale" forum; but I did offer to remove the item from eBay if any forum member wanted to buy it. I'm not sure whether that's a hanging offence or not - anyway there's nothing I can do about it now because the limited time in which I could have edited or deleted the post has long since expired.
I like to think of the members of YBW forums as being people who are interested in helping each other. And I think that, because of the relationship through the forum, we can trust people more than we might in other circumstances. As an example, I've just sold 2 C-Map chart cartridges through the "For Sale" forum, and I've posted them off to the 2 buyers without waiting for their cheques to clear - that's something I'd never do with complete strangers on eBay!
If you want to rigidly restrict what appears on the "For Sale" forum, then you need to email the moderators and make your voice heard. But bear in mind that many regular posters on other YBW forums have used links in their signatures which connect to commercial sites, or to sites selling their boats, etc. There's a risk that Kim would clamp down on these too, which wouldn't necessarily be an improvement.
OK, as I'm one of the "offenders", let me apologise for upsetting you so much. I posted a link to the eBay listing of my Navman plotter because I thought some forum members might be interested. I didn't give any details on the "For Sale" forum; I didn't list a price on the "For Sale" forum; but I did offer to remove the item from eBay if any forum member wanted to buy it. I'm not sure whether that's a hanging offence or not - anyway there's nothing I can do about it now because the limited time in which I could have edited or deleted the post has long since expired.
I like to think of the members of YBW forums as being people who are interested in helping each other. And I think that, because of the relationship through the forum, we can trust people more than we might in other circumstances. As an example, I've just sold 2 C-Map chart cartridges through the "For Sale" forum, and I've posted them off to the 2 buyers without waiting for their cheques to clear - that's something I'd never do with complete strangers on eBay!
If you want to rigidly restrict what appears on the "For Sale" forum, then you need to email the moderators and make your voice heard. But bear in mind that many regular posters on other YBW forums have used links in their signatures which connect to commercial sites, or to sites selling their boats, etc. There's a risk that Kim would clamp down on these too, which wouldn't necessarily be an improvement.
Re: Dear Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells...
IMO a post with a blatant - "here is my business and I'm offering such and such" on the for sale or other section is unexceptable.
Businesses - large or small should not abuse free for use forums this way.
I don't mind the footer with a link to a chandlery or whatever, even if the poster has a vested interest in the business - as long as it is clear that it is a footer/signature and not the main subject of the post.
I have no problem with any personal for sale item, be that a link to Ebay or another site/page with more details of said item.
IMO a post with a blatant - "here is my business and I'm offering such and such" on the for sale or other section is unexceptable.
Businesses - large or small should not abuse free for use forums this way.
I don't mind the footer with a link to a chandlery or whatever, even if the poster has a vested interest in the business - as long as it is clear that it is a footer/signature and not the main subject of the post.
I have no problem with any personal for sale item, be that a link to Ebay or another site/page with more details of said item.
pvb
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Did you have second thoughts about the word "blatent"? (Apart from the spelling, obviously).
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Re: Dear Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells...
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Businesses - large or small should not abuse free for use forums this way.
[/ QUOTE ]How can it be 'abuse' to advertise something for sale in a 'For Sale' section?
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Businesses - large or small should not abuse free for use forums this way.
[/ QUOTE ]How can it be 'abuse' to advertise something for sale in a 'For Sale' section?
Baffles me why anyone can get upset about this. What on earth is the problem with someone linking to their ebay advert? For myself, I would like to see the £200 limit lifted as long as traders are kept off. The more bargains I can pick up the better! But I guess the forum owners can see that as lost advertising revenue. Though most folks will just find another boaty site with free advertising.
As Bendyone suggested, why not a commercial section - works well on other forums.
As Bendyone suggested, why not a commercial section - works well on other forums.
duncan
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at the risk of stating the obvious there is already a comercial section and it's called 'buy a chandlery bargin' at the top of the page.
if forum members, or others, start encroaching on this territory - which funds the provision of the forums - that would be at our peril and should therefore be avoided.
I too have sent things off (including money) to others that have a history on here and it would be a great shame to loose the for sale sction completely so -
1. NO to trade, and
2. A sense of reality on the limits and links perhaps? Kim will act if he sees fit, and I for one wouldn't see the link to eBay for a plotter from a longstanding forum member, as a threat or call for action on it.
if forum members, or others, start encroaching on this territory - which funds the provision of the forums - that would be at our peril and should therefore be avoided.
I too have sent things off (including money) to others that have a history on here and it would be a great shame to loose the for sale sction completely so -
1. NO to trade, and
2. A sense of reality on the limits and links perhaps? Kim will act if he sees fit, and I for one wouldn't see the link to eBay for a plotter from a longstanding forum member, as a threat or call for action on it.
aitchw
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An over-reaction, I agree, in respect of e-Bay listings but would not like to see the £200 limit removed or the acceptance of routinely commercial listings. You can go find those elsewhere whilst the forum provides users with a way of disposing of redundant bits of kit to advantage of other users.
Re: Dear Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells...
Because the forum policy says so ... therefore it is commercial users abusing it...
I get a similar problem on the class association website ... they can advertise IF they provide an offer exclusive to the association members - why should the association fund their advertising campain? In the same way - why should YBW provide free advertising? Fine, for individuals who just want to sell off unwanted/needed kit, but not for a business....
Because the forum policy says so ... therefore it is commercial users abusing it...
I get a similar problem on the class association website ... they can advertise IF they provide an offer exclusive to the association members - why should the association fund their advertising campain? In the same way - why should YBW provide free advertising? Fine, for individuals who just want to sell off unwanted/needed kit, but not for a business....
ColinMorris
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Re: Dear Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells...
" why should YBW provide free advertising?"
Why should it bother you that much? Surely it is the concern of YBW and they should deal with it if they feel it is a problem. As long as things are sensible then let it go.
Colin Morris
" why should YBW provide free advertising?"
Why should it bother you that much? Surely it is the concern of YBW and they should deal with it if they feel it is a problem. As long as things are sensible then let it go.
Colin Morris