paulineb
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I know it's a tight fit and Mr B will insist on doing the parking bit .... what exactly will i need to do?
Med mooring
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whisper
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Laugh at his attempts ? Oh, hang on, you don't mean in a boating context do you /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
tcm
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he has to get the boat moving backwards intothe slot whilst you look delicate and fragrant, and it is usually his bit as it's going in that any f-up starts. Slow, mind, and whichever direction the wind is coming from , back the stern into that direction and turn in against the wind - otherwise if tother way and bow into wind uh-oh as you turn in the bow gets whipped along and wind+engine-assisted crucnho into the downwind boat.
Once in the slot best is him to get it moving back and try not to "check" the movement - can use bowthruster frinstance to change angle wat which it goes in. The fenders look as though the need fendering, but they sortemselves out. There is a lot more force than usual on the fenders as they get squaished - hangem close to the upright stanchion things so less risk of bent guardrails.. Don't bother with stern fender - looks awful he looks a right berk as though can't drive, and tis dead easy to check fwd-back movement.
Once closer in, you *could* signal with fingers how far the stern is from the back wall in metres that's quite useful sometimes. He shd be ded slow, so that only one fwd move is needed to stop boat ded - not fwd and uhoh back and oops fwd etcetc - so hang on a bit, not dangling off the stern trying to do lines till he stops it. If v windy, esp windy into the quay he has to stay at helm to hold it off til fwd and stern oline are on.
One line at the stern, and one line at the front needs attaching. If there is a boat either side, a short line to the side has pretty much got the boat ,and then he can do the rest.
I bet in barca people wil take a stern line line, and put it on the stern and norm is to tighten on the boat - but don't tighten until a foward line is on - pull up a lazy line and walk up to the front of the boat and haul up the thciker line out of the water - lettim do this as it's covered in poohey marina water. But wash these with the hose or replace and keepem out of the water, and next time if out for just a day just (ask first) and hook the lazy lines over next doors fenders - to pickum halfway down the boat much more convenient.
Once in the slot best is him to get it moving back and try not to "check" the movement - can use bowthruster frinstance to change angle wat which it goes in. The fenders look as though the need fendering, but they sortemselves out. There is a lot more force than usual on the fenders as they get squaished - hangem close to the upright stanchion things so less risk of bent guardrails.. Don't bother with stern fender - looks awful he looks a right berk as though can't drive, and tis dead easy to check fwd-back movement.
Once closer in, you *could* signal with fingers how far the stern is from the back wall in metres that's quite useful sometimes. He shd be ded slow, so that only one fwd move is needed to stop boat ded - not fwd and uhoh back and oops fwd etcetc - so hang on a bit, not dangling off the stern trying to do lines till he stops it. If v windy, esp windy into the quay he has to stay at helm to hold it off til fwd and stern oline are on.
One line at the stern, and one line at the front needs attaching. If there is a boat either side, a short line to the side has pretty much got the boat ,and then he can do the rest.
I bet in barca people wil take a stern line line, and put it on the stern and norm is to tighten on the boat - but don't tighten until a foward line is on - pull up a lazy line and walk up to the front of the boat and haul up the thciker line out of the water - lettim do this as it's covered in poohey marina water. But wash these with the hose or replace and keepem out of the water, and next time if out for just a day just (ask first) and hook the lazy lines over next doors fenders - to pickum halfway down the boat much more convenient.
Medskipper
Active member
Hi Pauline,
Firstly, lots of luck, I hope to join the Med crowd in the not too distant future!
My brother has been Med mooring for 8 years now and I was with him last week in Greece. The weather was fantastic, sea clear blue, you will love it!
Ok, for Stern to mooring, normally you call up the marina, they like to come out and help! they will hand you a rope, take it and walk to the bow, you should be about 4-5 metres away from the wall/pontoon etc. the rope is fixed to a block of concrete somewhere in front of you. Tie onto a bow cleat and secure, then gently motor astern and your stern ropes with be passed through/around cleats and handed back to you. pull the vessel back on both stern ropes as straight as possible and secure. Thats it! all you need to do is get out the passerelle!
Good luck
Barry
Firstly, lots of luck, I hope to join the Med crowd in the not too distant future!
My brother has been Med mooring for 8 years now and I was with him last week in Greece. The weather was fantastic, sea clear blue, you will love it!
Ok, for Stern to mooring, normally you call up the marina, they like to come out and help! they will hand you a rope, take it and walk to the bow, you should be about 4-5 metres away from the wall/pontoon etc. the rope is fixed to a block of concrete somewhere in front of you. Tie onto a bow cleat and secure, then gently motor astern and your stern ropes with be passed through/around cleats and handed back to you. pull the vessel back on both stern ropes as straight as possible and secure. Thats it! all you need to do is get out the passerelle!
Good luck
Barry
whisper
New member
I think it only fair to add that you should wear rubber gloves when handling the "lazy line"/bow rope as they are frequently sh***y.
MedDreamer
Active member
Look helpless and smile nicely at the Marinero
oh and wear a pair of marigolds, the leading line will be filthy.
oh and wear a pair of marigolds, the leading line will be filthy.
jfm
Well-known member
I'd do it in tcm's order, not barry's. Get the stern mooring lines on first, then the bow.
The next part of the routine depends where your winches are. If you have winches at all three corners, attach the stern lines a bit too long. Then attach the bow line(s) and wind it to its final position (get to learn how far pull the bow line up - eg note the lenght of chain links above the water surface or summink). Then return to stern and winch in the two stern lines to their final position. Job done
But if you only have a bow winch, attach the two stern lines in their final position then tighten up the bow to its final posiiton with the winch.
Point is, on boat as big as yours, you must use a winch. Doing all three lines just by hand will not put enuf tension in the rig and your boat will move too much in storms. It all needs to be quite tightish
In cross winds or if leaving the boat for a while attach an extra pair of stern lines cross over each other in an X. But dont do them too tight else in a cross wind you will take the "weight" of the whole line of boats if (as is likely) they are not using tight crosslines
It's easier to do than write here /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The next part of the routine depends where your winches are. If you have winches at all three corners, attach the stern lines a bit too long. Then attach the bow line(s) and wind it to its final position (get to learn how far pull the bow line up - eg note the lenght of chain links above the water surface or summink). Then return to stern and winch in the two stern lines to their final position. Job done
But if you only have a bow winch, attach the two stern lines in their final position then tighten up the bow to its final posiiton with the winch.
Point is, on boat as big as yours, you must use a winch. Doing all three lines just by hand will not put enuf tension in the rig and your boat will move too much in storms. It all needs to be quite tightish
In cross winds or if leaving the boat for a while attach an extra pair of stern lines cross over each other in an X. But dont do them too tight else in a cross wind you will take the "weight" of the whole line of boats if (as is likely) they are not using tight crosslines
It's easier to do than write here /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Steve Clayton
New member
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Then attach the bow line(s) and wind it to its final position (get to learn how far pull the bow line up)
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Once your happy with your position /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif then mark the bow line with tape, coloured tie-wrap, or similar, for future reference.
Hang your lazy line on your boat to keep clean.Talk to your neighbours and agree to hang your lazy line(s) on their boat when you go out (and vice versa)
Suggest more than one pair of gloves, if there is a chance of dirty water off the lines getting on seats then take them up!
Then attach the bow line(s) and wind it to its final position (get to learn how far pull the bow line up)
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Once your happy with your position /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif then mark the bow line with tape, coloured tie-wrap, or similar, for future reference.
Hang your lazy line on your boat to keep clean.Talk to your neighbours and agree to hang your lazy line(s) on their boat when you go out (and vice versa)
Suggest more than one pair of gloves, if there is a chance of dirty water off the lines getting on seats then take them up!
ChrisP
Member
John knows what he's doing. Just listen to him.
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djefabs
Member
Hi Pauline
Just do what you do best /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif and leave it to Mr B. I'm sure you will attract plenty of assistance. Sorry I won't be able to come down on your last weekend (am beginning the 'grand' tour. Looks like we might be meeting a few more peps from the forum, they all seem to be going to Guernsey this weekend) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Have a great weekend. Will be thinking about you next week.
Just do what you do best /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif and leave it to Mr B. I'm sure you will attract plenty of assistance. Sorry I won't be able to come down on your last weekend (am beginning the 'grand' tour. Looks like we might be meeting a few more peps from the forum, they all seem to be going to Guernsey this weekend) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Have a great weekend. Will be thinking about you next week.
itsonlymoney
New member
Have a practice
http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html
http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html
Dave_Snelson
Active member
Thats addictive...
...and I should be working!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
...and I should be working!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
ccscott49
Active member
Worry not!! I'll be here! So will Ethan who with our dinghy will act as tug, and push boat where it needs to be. DON'T TOUCH the bow lines, they are really grotty and full of barnacles, forget marigolds, they will be shredded, we use welders gloves! (buy in UK some heavy duty work gloves to leave on Tommy) The marineros here are pretty good and will assist. Once you've done it a few times, you'll get the hang of it, just like sex!
Coupe
New member
Re: Thats addictive...
Me too /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Me too /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
MedDreamer
Active member
I use heavy duty gardening gloves from B&Q.
Renegade_Master
New member
Your avin a Laugh Barry...................
"Ok, for Stern to mooring, normally you call up the marina, they like to come out and help"!
Hah not in our Marina you dont, and no they dont like to come and help
"they will hand you a rope, take it and walk to the bow, you should be about 4-5 metres away from the wall/pontoon etc."
If your 4-5 meters from the pontoon how you gonna get the rope. Also not good idea with props turning to be bringing ropes up from the bottom me thinks.
"Tie onto a bow cleat and secure, then gently motor astern and your stern ropes with be passed through/around cleats and handed back to you. pull the vessel back on both stern ropes as straight as possible and secure".
Nope get in to quay side, secure the two stern ropes (there is usually a boat each side to keep you in position) Then lift up slime line walk to front of boat and pull out boat using the bow line to "tighten" up the stern to correct distance from the quayside to suit your passerelle, and also ensure stern will not be bumping into quayside in swell.
"Ok, for Stern to mooring, normally you call up the marina, they like to come out and help"!
Hah not in our Marina you dont, and no they dont like to come and help
"they will hand you a rope, take it and walk to the bow, you should be about 4-5 metres away from the wall/pontoon etc."
If your 4-5 meters from the pontoon how you gonna get the rope. Also not good idea with props turning to be bringing ropes up from the bottom me thinks.
"Tie onto a bow cleat and secure, then gently motor astern and your stern ropes with be passed through/around cleats and handed back to you. pull the vessel back on both stern ropes as straight as possible and secure".
Nope get in to quay side, secure the two stern ropes (there is usually a boat each side to keep you in position) Then lift up slime line walk to front of boat and pull out boat using the bow line to "tighten" up the stern to correct distance from the quayside to suit your passerelle, and also ensure stern will not be bumping into quayside in swell.
ArthurWood
New member
Wot a b@*&^y palaver!! Don't they have any finger piers and pilings for you to "lean" on if it's windy as you back in? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
BrendanS
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Not in third world countries, no they don't! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Just feel privileged that you live in the foremost country in the world, whose outlook on foreign affairs is so illuminated, whose economy is rising faster than every other country, whose social and political outlooks are so liberated and enlightened, and who support all major treaties and other areas of global concern, and pay all their UN bills before any other country, etc ad infinitum
Now what was that about a palaver? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Just feel privileged that you live in the foremost country in the world, whose outlook on foreign affairs is so illuminated, whose economy is rising faster than every other country, whose social and political outlooks are so liberated and enlightened, and who support all major treaties and other areas of global concern, and pay all their UN bills before any other country, etc ad infinitum
Now what was that about a palaver? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Ships_Cat
New member
Oi, Brendan. You sound as if you are starting to succumb to English narrowmindedness and oncewereimportantbutnolongersoness. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
John
John
LittleShip
New member
Go ON Lad !
""just feel privileged that you live in the foremost country in the world, whose outlook on foreign affairs is so illuminated, whose economy is rising faster than every other country, whose social and political outlooks are so liberated and enlightened, and who support all major treaties and other areas of global concern, and pay all their UN bills before any other country, etc ad infinitum""
Make em av it Brendan?? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
""just feel privileged that you live in the foremost country in the world, whose outlook on foreign affairs is so illuminated, whose economy is rising faster than every other country, whose social and political outlooks are so liberated and enlightened, and who support all major treaties and other areas of global concern, and pay all their UN bills before any other country, etc ad infinitum""
Make em av it Brendan?? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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