Marieholm 26 on eBay

[Vid]

Should I bid for this yacht?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marieholm-26-foot-...1QQcmdZViewItem

It's a model I'm interested in and could be at a good price - what questions should I be asking the vendor?

 

[FullCircle]

Here is a list of the details I used when selling my last boat. Look through it, and draft up a list of questions, this list may help to jog memory.




Jouet 680

Price £5995

Year: 1979
Serial Number: 131
Designer: Jean Berret
Lying: Burnham On Crouch, Essex
SSR Registered
Over 400 of these well balanced small boats were made, and there is a strong owners association in France. Very sturdy in construction, the 680s have a complete inner moulding to stiffen the hull and form the accommodation.

Overview
Only purchased in 2003, Second Chance has undergone a £4750 refit during Winter 2003/ Spring 2004 and has been used this season for teaching partner (and co-owner) Lynn to sail. Whilst in exceptional condition for the year, there are a small number of cosmetic jobs to do this winter if required. This boat is in a genuine sailaway condition.
Lynn liked her introduction to sailing so much, we have bought a Jeanneau 35, and therefore Second Chance is regrettably for sale.




Construction: GRP, White with Blue Stripe
LOA: 6.80m ( 22ft 5ins) LWL: 6.55m ( 21ft 6ins)
Keel: Fin Keel, Cast Iron . Draft 1.1m ( 3ft 7ins) Rudder: Transom Hung
Max Beam: 2.24m (7ft 3 ins) Disp: 1400Kg approx
Mainsail: 12.00m2 Genoa: 13.00m2
Cruising Chute: 24.00m2
Engine: Volvo MB2A-50S 2 Cylinder 8Hp Petrol Saildrive, Fixed Propeller
Berths: 4
1 Double For’ard (1.9m / 6ft 3ins) 2 Singles: Port (2.4m /7ft 10ins)
Starboard (2.8m/9ft 2ins)
Galley: Flavel Vanessa 2 Ring Hob with Separate Grill and Oven. Foldaway Sink/ Electric Pumped Water
Toilet: Porta Potti Thetford Model 145





Detail:

Hull: White GRP with Blue Paint Stripe
The hull was stripped to gelcoat and faired Re antifouled using Coopers Hard.
Fin keel was also stripped, all rust ground off and refaired with Resin and Sikaflex to hull joint. Primed in 5 coats of International Trilux and re antifouled with Coopers Hard. Keelbolts checked, no damage or corrosion observed.
Replaced bilge pump skin fitting.
Added gas locker drain skin fitting.
Hull rubbed down with Farecla G10 and rewaxed with 3M Ultramarine.
Transom ladder restored and modified to prevent drag in the water.
Rudder and fittings removed and refitted. Rudder revarnished with 8 coats International Goldseal. Tiller also Revarnished. New Holt Allen Tiller extension handle.

Topsides/ Superstructure: White GRP
Topsides thoroughly cleaned with Y10 stain remover.
Anchor well self draining with lockdown lid containing CQR Anchor with 7m 6mm chain and 20m 14mm Warp.
Mooring Cleat to port with fairlead to bow.
Aluminium toe rail full length to each side
All stanchions removed and repaired/rewelded. Rebedded to toe rail.
New stainless lifelines with plastic coating. Hasselfors bottle adjusters.
Added safety netting to guard rail area
Added elastic bungee sail hooks to forward area.
Removed broken vent, replaced with see through mushroom deck vent over galley area.
Removed forehatch and frame, renovated and replaced, sealed with Sikaflex.
Removed Mast Step fitting, replaced mahogany reinforcement under, and GRP resin repairs to top. Refitted and sealed.
2x Genoa car tracks (original)
Added 2x 4 way deck organisers and 2x1 way pulleys for leading lines aft
Added 2x triple rope clutches (Lewmar 8-12mm & Antal 6-10mm) and 2 x Barton cam jammers. Added 2x Manual V block jammers.
Removed and refaced Main Hatch. Resealed main hatch runners and grab rails to coachroof .
Moved original equipment size 8 Michels winches (reconditioned) to coachroof. Add 2 x size 28 Gibb 2 speed reconditioned winches to coamings .
Added fittings and control line for Cruising chute
Added fittings and control line for furling gear
Added jammer to coamings for cruising chute sheet and tack
Added V Block jammer to coaming for furling line
Added 2 x Sheet/Halyard stowage bags to bulkhead
Added new Henderson Manual Bilge Pump and handle to coaming face
Added Lifeline strongpoints to forward and aft of cockpit
Removed/reseated engine control panel
Repaired aft locker lid hinges and lock hasp
Added electric socket for Tillerpilot
Removed and resealed mainsheet swivel in cockpit floor.
Lifebelt and carrier to port pushpit rail
Outboard bracket to rear pushpit.
Mooring Cleats to port and starboard aft.
Flag staff and mount to port on transom


Aft Locker:
All bilges and lockers painted in white International Danboline.
Added gas locker, single Calor 7kg bottle, new installation of pipes and control valves. Overboard drain to locker
Added fuel tank shelf and restraint.
Refurbish bilge blower unit and refit. Replace 4 inch bilge blower hose.
Large enough for 2.4m inflatable, spare fuel fenders warps and cruising chute.


Engine Compartment:
Added 10 gallon polypropylene aqua water tank to underfloor of cockpit sole. Replaced water hoses
Manufactured new teak frame for cockpit floor access hatch and replaced hinges and seal on access hatch. Revise access hatch locking.
Storage area for tools and spare oil etc


Mast / Rigging:
Original Equipment Z Spars mast and boom, 7/8 Fractional Rig.
Topping Lift on mast with winch (2001)
Main Halyard led to cockpit (2002)
2x Spinnaker Halyards led to cockpit (2004)
Genoa Halyard led to cockpit (2004)
Facnor S60 Roller Furling Gear (2004). Twin Aluminium Luff Groove for racing use if required. Drum can be quickly dismounted.
Forestay (2004)
Upper Shrouds (2004)
Cap Shrouds (2002)
Cunningham led to cockpit (2004)
2 Reef system led to cockpit (2004)
Outhaul led to cockpit (2004)
Kicker led to cockpit (2004)
2 x Flag Halyards to Crosstrees (2004)
Jackstay system led to cockpit (2004)
VHF V-Tronix Aerial with Windex Direction Indicator. Replaced VHF cable and deck plug
New Lalizas 12m Masthead tricolour Navigation Lights.
Removed and refurbished Steaming Light
Removed and resealed Mast cap and main halyard sheaves.
Spreaders area of mast reinforced with new sections
All rivets in mast replaced with stainless in Duralac
Mast resealed to step fitting in Duralac
Boom Gooseneck resealed
Most mast foot turning blocks are new 2004
Mainsheet control new 2004
Backstay tensioner revised with Dyneema lines 2004
2x Cruising Chute sheets
2 x Genoa sheets


Sails:

Main: Jeckells (2001 but not used until 2004). 2 reefs, 4 batten with modified Wilkinson Batten tensioning system 2004. Revised from bolt rope luff to Holt sliders 2004. Jouet insignia, ‘131’ sail number and tell tales added 2004. Re valeted for 2004
Roller Genoa: Crusader Bi-Radial Cruiser/Racer (2004) 135% maximum with Bainbridge Contender 580 cloth. UV Strip and low cut to deck level. 3x tell tales.
Cruising Chute: Crusader Tri Radial Cruiser/Racer (2004) cut ( 85% of IOR Spinnaker size) in 1.5oz Contender ripstop.
Storm Jib: (Year Unknown – never used) Excellent.
Other sails: Spare Main looks original, serviceable but grubby
No1 Genoa Hank On. Original. Tired but serviceable
No 3 Jib Hank On. Tired but serviceable
Spare forestay for hank on use.





Engine: Volvo MB2A-50S Saildrive
2 Cylinder 8HP Petrol 4 stroke engine (manufactured by Honda) with Forward and Reverse Gears. Rubber isolation mounts with O ring seal to hull in Volvo mount box.
Pull cord start from within the cabin (a vertical start kit for cockpit use is available)
Approx consumption ½ Gallon/Hour at cruise
Standard Volvo Forward/Reverse Single lever control in cockpit.
5 Amp charging system
Complete rebuild for 2004 with new cylinder head, piston rings, exhaust box, inlet manifold, all seals and filters, cam belt, anode.
Spare engine and ancillaries including prop included (not complete)
5 kts cruise speed



Electrical Equipment:
System rewired 2002, with added systems 2004
2 Battery system with Master Battery switch (2004) Batteries 60Ah and 85Ah
Master control panel with 12 fused, individual switched circuits
3 Cabin lights. 1x10w to Forecabin, 1x8w Fluorescent to Galley and 1x10w over Chart area
1x Bilge blower (Plastimo)for engine compartment
Electric Fresh Water Pump (Whale)
Instruments:
NASA Target Log in Bulkhead (2002)
NASA Target Depth in Bulkhead (2002)
NASA Clipper GPS Repeater in Bulkhead (2004)
Plastimo 101 Tactical Compass (2004)
Instrument Lights and Compass Light
NMEA GPS connection for GPS
NMEA GPS outlet in chart area for Yeoman Plotter
12v Power Outlet (Cigarette Lighter socket)
Navigation Lights (Masthead Tricolour)
Steaming Light
VHF Radio – Shoreline 50 with fistmike
Autohelm AH800 Tillerpilot
Charging circuit from engine 5 amp with isolation switch
Engine Oil Pressure and Cooling Water warning buzzer in cockpit
Engine Stop Switch in cockpit


Cabin :



All lockers and bilges cleaned and painted with white International Danboline paint.
Open plan single cabin layout with double vee berth forward. Large storage under with Log paddle wheel access.
Chemical toilet under berth to port.
Additional stowage opposite toilet to starboard







Galley with Flavel Vanessa full size cooker on gimbals with 2 hobs with fiddles, grill and pan and oven with central shelf. Gas shut off valve behind.
1Kg Powder Fire Extinguisher
1x Fire Blanket
Foldaway sink with drain and supplied Whale electric fresh water pump.
Large food locker stowage under with small cupboard/drawers next to sink
4 Plate, 3 bottle wine stowage and 4 mug mouldings to rear.
Access to depth transducer and strum box.
Long berth to starboard with 3 watertight under berth stowages
2 outboard stowage areas to starboard (used as chart and safety gear stowages)
Single berth to port with 2 stowages (1 contains 2x batteries)
1 outboard stowage area.
Drop leaf table with single central column to seat 4.
All cushions have new deep blue water resistant treated covers for 2004.
All woodwork has been removed and varnished in matt International.
Headlinings have been replaced throughout in white foam backed vinyl for 2004 (needs some edge finishing)
2x dark windows with double curtain tracks
Teak/Holly veneered floorboards revarnished

 

[superman]

go down and see the boat, it's only in hayling.

 

[Tisme]

Superman is right. Before going I would ask what is she made from (wood? GRP?) how old is she and is there a recent survey?

The same boat(?) is on Boats and Outboards which may give you an indication of what he is looking to get for her.

 

[macca]

We had a Marieholm 26 until a couple of years ago. Marvellous boat to sail, and built like a brick shthouse. Only issues we had were -

Some osmosis - hull is solid fibreglass, so easily fixed.

Corrosion in toe rail due to stanchions not being insulated when originally constructed.

Some corrosion at base of mast - this is a deck stepped mast.

Some motor issues - ours was a Yanmar YSM8 - if engine is original, it will be around 25 years old

Backstay anchoring tangs are flimsy.

Area behind engine is difficult to access without removing engine, so watch for maintenance on cockpit drain seacock, and on propshaft seal.

Also note -

Keel is fibreglass encapsulated lead, so you need to check for any damage to bottom of keel.

Deck is foam sandwich, so the usual precautions apply.

 

[doug748]

Can only agree with Tisme. These are superb boats. I had a Marieholm IF boat for many years (same hull and rig, smaller accommodation).
They are fast in all conditions and seaworthy. Modern fractional rig with big main so only two headsails needed, roller reefing is a luxury but certainly not essential.
The designer (Tord Sunden of Folkboat fame) was asked where he stowed his engine, he said: "in the garden shed". So throw that old engine in the skip!
Sunden designed the hull as a GRP interpretation of the Folkboat but it is longer and has much greater interior volume.
The Contessa 26 took more UK sails because the Marieholm was an expensive boat, but to my mind the Swedish IF boat it is the most attractive GRP yacht ever built.
I might be able to dig out a review of the boat if you are interested. Brian.

 

[doug748]

Sorry, it's macca I agree with!