Marex 440 debut at Cannes

[roa312]

Just wanted to advertise on behalf of Marex, who recently debuted their new 440 Cruiser. It's worth noting that it can be configured with either V-drive shafts, IPS, or sterndrives. The boat will have two modifications: the 440 Gourmet Cruiser with a U-shaped kitchen layout (this version presented in the video below) and the 440 Scandinavia Version with a second dining area in an enclosed salon.

 

[Sianna]

it's a beautiful boat, but no indication of prices as yet

 

[harvey38]

Cruiser yacht?

 

[jfm]

Nice boat in many respects. I've never seen a builder weld stainless steel guardrail tubes across each other like at 3:01 of that video - what were they thinking?


has an AnCam, as invented here - 4:41 of the video

 

[Martxer]

Nice boat in many respects. I've never seen a builder weld stainless steel guardrail tubes across each other like at 3:01 of that video - what were they thinking?

prototype possibly? along With cup holders that are too small

 

[roa312]

Nice boat in many respects. I've never seen a builder weld stainless steel guardrail tubes across each other like at 3:01 of that video - what were they thinking?

They do this on their other models too! See their 330 Scandinavia below:

 

[roa312]

prototype possibly? along With cup holders that are too small

I also understand this is the very first production boat/prototype so there probably will be quite a few changes/iterations over the next few boats.

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

Nice boat in many respects. I've never seen a builder weld stainless steel guardrail tubes across each other like at 3:01 of that video - what were they thinking?

I have seen that with Scandinavian builders in the past so its not new. Also the teak toe-rail in Roa312 photo looks an after thought for me.
Again saw Scandinavians do this in the past. Off my head it might have been a Nord-West.

I think the Scandinavians try to hard to make a Scandinavian boat for the Med, to take that peace of the pie. Windy surely the most succesful in this.
It is a bit like the Americans who try to make a Euro Yacht or Cruiser, it is all right but is never perfect.
Now I am not saying the 440 is not a nice machine, she definitely is, and to be fair is not the first good product from Marex.

 

[roa312]

I think the Scandinavians try to hard to make a Scandinavian boat for the Med, to take that peace of the pie. Windy surely the most succesful in this.
It is a bit like the Americans who try to make a Euro Yacht or Cruiser, it is all right but is never perfect.
Now I am not saying the 440 is not a nice machine, she definitely is, and to be fair is not the first good product from Marex.

I don't think either of the two configurations of the 440 is specifically aimed at the Mediterranean but rather at Scandinavia, the Baltics, and the UK (Northern Europe). My understanding is that they are already receiving plenty of orders with a very long delivery wait, so I'm not sure if expanding to the Mediterranean is a primary focus for them.

As for whether it's a good boat for the Med, that's all a matter of personal preference. I don't even know which specific 'Med' boat to compare it to, but let's take, for instance, the Azimut Atlantis 45 - a generic Med-style sports cruiser. What aspects or interior choices here do you think are preferable to the Marex? There's a fixed sunbed, which is useful for stowing the tender, of course. Then there's a flat bed arrangement next to the helm instead of proper seating. There are no doors to the side decks. Down below, the kitchen is perhaps 50% smaller compared to the Marex, and you only get one guest cabin. However, there's a large sitting arrangement below, which some might prefer of course.

And of course, just as in all other Med-style sports cruisers, the designers made sure to block out the view (sun?) from the upper seating arrangement (see below) . This simply wouldn't happen in a boat from Scandinavian (Windy included!) - but maybe that's what makes a boat truly Med-oriented !

 

[Portofino]

Then why debut @ Cannes ?

 

[roa312]

Then why debut @ Cannes ?

I don't follow. Are you suggesting that the boat's premiere location is a relevant criteria for buyers? Surely this is not what you mean?

In 2021, they also premiered the Marex 330 Scandinavia at Cannes. I imagine it's because they get a good turnout of buyers or because the timing matches with production, but who knows? Judging from the MBY video, there are mainly Norwegians and Swedes onboard and the Danish dealer can also be seen talking to Thomas.

 

[Portofino]

Its about the target audience .
CANNES is more Med , say Stockholm ( or eq Scandinavia show ) is more Baltic/ N sea .

So if the home order book is healthy as you say , then pushing it @ Cannes means they are trying to break into the Med market . Otherwise why exhibit there ?

 

[roa312]

I imagine one reason they premiere at Cannes is due to the extensive media coverage. If this had been a show in Oslo, I'm not sure we would have instant YouTube videos from MBY, Aquaholic, etc. But hey, maybe I'm completely wrong! Perhaps Marex is struggling, and the boat is really targeted at the Mediterranean market, just like cars presented in Geneva are targeted at the Swiss and movies presented in Venice are intended only for Italians !

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

An interesting comparison, but that last photo is what makes the Atlantis 45 a Med boat alone, the more open attitude.
Would you want to be sun boiling while having your aperitif with tasters going on?

For example while you point out the Marex side door, in this size is nearly useless (stern mooring), and the access to port side is also not so easy.

Also you say that the Marex is designed and build for the Scandinavian market which is 90% correct but then why would make a World debut at Cannes if you are not looking to take some of that Med pie.

The Atlantis 45 is selling like hot cakes to be true, in nearly every decent Med Marina I see one or two of them.
But in the end the Atlantis 45 is an old generation type med cruiser, an evolution of the Atlantis 43 in layout which debuted in 2013 nearly identical if you see the layout alone.

We are entering the generation of fully open sterns in sub fifteen meters, like pioneered by Wally a couple decades ago, and now sold to the death by Anvera with the 48 (delivery wait of two years).
Fairline for example is noticing this and its upcoming Targa 40 goes into this direction as well.

I imagine one reason they premiere at Cannes is due to the extensive media coverage. If this had been a show in Oslo, I'm not sure we would have instant YouTube videos from MBY, Aquaholic, etc. But hey, maybe I'm completely wrong! Perhaps Marex is struggling, and the boat is really targeted at the Mediterranean market, just like cars presented in Geneva are targeted at the Swiss and movies presented in Venice are intended only for Italians !

Probably right about the coverage, but then you could have the same result in Dusseldorf or Southampton if British media coverage is what you are after.
The numbers of Cannes are also not special, just over 50k. As an example Dusseldorf does 200k+, Genova 100k+.
I am sure that Cannes is strong in PoIs which result in a sale (esp in 80ft plus sizes), but in this size probably a debut in Southampton would have worked better for the type of boat and sales demographic.

I am not saying the boat is bad, but certain design choices will make her a difficult sell in the med.
They could fix some of the smaller ones (the outside railing and toe rail) and it would already be better, but then it would be a hard sell in Scandinavia which AFAIK is there prime market.

 

[EricJ]

Very nice looking boat, but I agree this may be more a boat for northern climes. It is good to see there is choice and it is not all flybridge or sportcruiser with IPS at this size.
will be interesting to see how it compares to the Nimbus 405 coupe. Also coupe model, 3 cabins, V-drive, side door etc. I was impressed with the headroom in latest Marex designs. The new 440 does not look so tall. Nimbus 405 is ok on headroom, but there are better ones.
A head to head comparison would be of interest, perhaps something for MBY or YachtBuyer to take up.

 

[EricJ]

Aquaholic Nick put a price for the boat on his walkthrough video: just over a million…what are they thinking?
quite remarkable btw that for Aquaholic the boat is cleared of other visitors…

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

Listen everybody fires prices left and right, especially in these videos, which I somehow many times are used as a bargaining chip.

But I know two people who nearly cleared near a million for a Sunseeker Manhattan 68, both of them buying for less then 2 million EUROS late last year.
I have also an Italian customer who bought an F72 for 3 million past December, which is about nearly half the price to what Aquaholic quotes.

May be these prices have trade-in umbrellas factored into them, and if you go cash it is really another price.

 

[j24jam]

I really like these boats, I'm fairly certain I will own a few over the years to come (once they are a quarter of the new price!).

I'd like to know what sort of teak they have used onboard - as IMO it looks a bit dark. Perhaps its plantation.. and it clashes with the galley woodwork.

 

[EricJ]

Listen everybody fires prices left and right, especially in these videos, which I somehow many times are used as a bargaining chip.

But I know two people who nearly cleared near a million for a Sunseeker Manhattan 68, both of them buying for less then 2 million EUROS late last year.
I have also an Italian customer who bought an F72 for 3 million past December, which is about nearly half the price to what Aquaholic quotes.

May be these prices have trade-in umbrellas factored into them, and if you go cash it is really another price.

fair point. The boat may also be packed with extras.
The prices quoted by Aquaholic for the larger boats seem to inflate very rapidly. Princess Y80 for 8.3 million USD……San Lorenzo SX76 for 4.9 million EUR in another aquaholic video sounds comparatively good value.

 

[roa312]

An interesting comparison, but that last photo is what makes the Atlantis 45 a Med boat alone, the more open attitude.
Would you want to be sun boiling while having your aperitif with tasters going on?

I don't see how the Azimut is more 'open' compared to the Marex, and when it comes to blocking out the view from seating arrangements, that just looks like a design flaw to me (IMHO), but fair if you think that adds value - this is of course all individual preference.

There's no disputing that the generic open sports cruiser design has been very successful for decades now, and I'm sure it will continue to be for longer still. However, I think some manufacturers seem to be on autopilot when it comes to designing these. I think it's great to see Marex presenting something that's quite innovative in many ways, and I think one strength is that the owners are right there on-site presenting at boat shows and taking feedback. They, of course, also sail these boats privately (the same goes for the dealers here in the Nordics btw). On many other boats, it sometimes feels like the designers are very far from the people actually using the boats.