westhinder
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Absolutely agree!
Better to have a personal view that challenges you to look at familiar places with a fresh awareness.
Lord Montague's River
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Absolutely agree!
Better to have a personal view that challenges you to look at familiar places with a fresh awareness.
Iain C
Active member
I think Dylan can say what he likes. It's his video, and you don't need to watch or buy it if you don't want to. I also agree the the Master Builder is expensive and somewhat lacking, the anchoring charge a joke, Beaulieu generally over-priced, although any harbour master I've encountered has been very courteous. However I also get that if I was rich enough to have a private jetty, I might be annoyed if people used it, so a "private" sign is probably OK. And if the security camera was pointing at my boat on her mooring, then why not.
I'd just urge people to have a bit of perspective. It's not every country in the world where you can navigate a "royal" river and actually rant about it on youtube and then debate it on here freely. Saying that one persons yacht is ugly or creates wash compared to one's own, is, let's be honest, a bit of a "first world problem" in the grand scheme of things.
I'd just urge people to have a bit of perspective. It's not every country in the world where you can navigate a "royal" river and actually rant about it on youtube and then debate it on here freely. Saying that one persons yacht is ugly or creates wash compared to one's own, is, let's be honest, a bit of a "first world problem" in the grand scheme of things.
rogerball0
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Exactly!,............Whats wrong with having an opinion? i'd rather listen to someone who has something to say and their reasons for saying it than a load of bland bull**** you hear everywhere else,(TV, Radio, Pub etc) infact i'd go as far as to say thats part of the problem with wider society; intellectual bar being lowered etc. FWIW having worked in alot of poshknobs houses in London i dont think its any great secret that none of them have any taste, it used to cheer me (and the other blokes) up on some jobs when the client was being a d!ck and you'd look around at what you were working in (largely designed by the clients wife and usually lots of gold and marble) and laugh your arse off - great fun and got paid well too as i remember
I can't help but think of the UK programme 'points of view' where 'indignant' and 'enraged' viewers would sit through a whole hour of something vaguely pornographic / violent and then phone / write to complain about it..............
Thought Dylan's piece was pretty accurate and very interesting myself although i didnt know they charged you for picking up a mooring buoy, bit of a piss take. i remember being chased down the river by the harbourmaster years ago on the boat i now own with my dad telling my brother and i to look forward and ignore him, it was only when the guy was alongside that the old man paid up, exclaiming "excessively diligent aren't you?"
Keep up the vido's Dylan, it keeps me sane whilst in my boathut.
Bru
Well-known member
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and even prejudices but I have to say that the constant harping on about mobos is beginning to put me off the KTL vids and I'm a raggie!
Give over Dylan, we know you don't like 'em but it's getting tedious now with the constant pan to mobo. adopt sarcy voice "nice boat" pause, pan to mobo. adopt sarcy voice "nice boat" pause, pan to mobo. adopt sarcy voice "nice boat"!
As for the Beaulieu River, before I got fed up with the commentary (and then YOutube crashed my laptop for good measure
) all I saw was a very pretty river with some boats moored on it and a very unspoiled looking well kept river bank. Even the piles are timber and it all looked very nice to me
Yes, there's lots of moored boats. Lots of people want boats and they need somewhere to moor them (kind've "no sh*t, Sherlock, is that). Since I'm one of them I feel it would be churlish to complain about other people having somewhere to moor
Give over Dylan, we know you don't like 'em but it's getting tedious now with the constant pan to mobo. adopt sarcy voice "nice boat" pause, pan to mobo. adopt sarcy voice "nice boat" pause, pan to mobo. adopt sarcy voice "nice boat"!
As for the Beaulieu River, before I got fed up with the commentary (and then YOutube crashed my laptop for good measure
) all I saw was a very pretty river with some boats moored on it and a very unspoiled looking well kept river bank. Even the piles are timber and it all looked very nice to meYes, there's lots of moored boats. Lots of people want boats and they need somewhere to moor them (kind've "no sh*t, Sherlock, is that). Since I'm one of them I feel it would be churlish to complain about other people having somewhere to moor
136069
Member
Brilliant video Dylan, your commentary is always brilliant - either factual, informative or just humorous!
Giblets
Well-known member
Just a point of order m'lud but the Langstone Mulberry was actually built in the area surrounding the Ferry Boat Inn on the Hayling side of the harbour entrance. On floating off it developed a fatal crack and was abandoned on the adjacent sandbank where it sits to this day.
l'escargot
New member
I think Dylan is doing a public service. If he can deter even a few people from cluttering up Beaulieu when I'm visiting, I'll appreciate it - especially if he sends then all over to Newtown to squeeze in amongst all the other people "getting away from it all". :encouragement:
jac
Well-known member
I liked the video but do know what people mean re the sniping at modern MOBO's and AWBs. It does come across sometimes as a little churlish sometimes. That boat costs lots more than mine - no taste. Same with the houses. Would you object to people having a sign up saying private drive, no parking? If not then presumably you're ok if I park in your drive for a day or two. Cheaper than the official car parks??
On balance though, still probably the best films around.
On balance though, still probably the best films around.
BERT T
New member
Well said Seajet, I totally agree.
prv
Well-known member
I'm certainly not bothered by it, but do I detect that Dylan has become more foul-mouthed after living as a maritime troglodyte for all this time?
"People putting up ****-off signs everywhere"
He called me a lazy ******* in person the other day too
Pete
"People putting up ****-off signs everywhere"
He called me a lazy ******* in person the other day too
Pete
jhr
Well-known member
I agree with you about the Master Builder, and have said so at various times on here, over the years. It could be brilliant but it's utterly rubbish. However - and how can I put this? - it isn't run by Lord M. or Beaulieu Estates, it's currently run by an outfit called Hillbrooke (?sp?) Hotels. No doubt they lease the buildings from Beaulieu Estates but you can hardly hold Lord M responsible for the fact that they are crap, surely?
You plainly had a bad experience with the harbour staff 20 years ago, which has traumatised you for life. All I can say (having moored on the river for more than 10 years) is that the current team are charming, helpful and efficient, which even Dylan seems to acknowledge.
Incidentally, although I didn't agree with Dylan's opinion about the river, that's not to say I didn't enjoy the film.
Perverse; that's me................
Bru
Well-known member
He called me a lazy ******* in person the other day too
Huh, he told ME to "**** off" over the phone a few weeks ago. Mind you, I was taking the proverbial at the time!
prv
Well-known member
He does seem to adopt these long-term grudges based on one or two events. He witnessed a pub brawl in the Frog and Frigate a decade or two ago and now says he won't come to Southampton without some serious armament
Yarmouth's on his ****-list too.
Pete
l'escargot
New member
And Gosport, Bembridge and East Cowes...He does seem to adopt these long-term grudges based on one or two events. He witnessed a pub brawl in the Frog and Frigate a decade or two ago and now says he won't come to Southampton without some serious armament
Yarmouth's on his ****-list too.
Pete
dylanwinter
Active member
I'm certainly not bothered by it, but do I detect that Dylan has become more foul-mouthed after living as a maritime troglodyte for all this time?
"People putting up ****-off signs everywhere"
He called me a lazy ******* in person the other day too
Pete
It was a beautiful morning - you were at anchor, it was well past 9.30
I sailed slowly past and whispered down your open hatch
"wakey, wakey you lazy barstewards - you are missing the best part of the day"
Seajet
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Thanks Pete,
I always thought it a chance in a million the thing had floated through the entrance as I was told when a youngster !
Andy
dylanwinter
Active member
This is one of the reasons why I enjoy the Solent. It is relentlessly entertaining and there is so much history to enjoy and explore. I have travelled in Canada, USA and NZ and you go for a walk up a creek or valley and the only history you can leanr about the place is that a farmer once grazed cattle along the bank. In the Uk there is layer after layer of history. At the top of the Monty river there were several small wharves which have almost certainly been in use for centurioes and maybe even millennia.
I am looking forward to having a poke around Langstone Harbour. When I went for a bike ride along the shore there last week there were three abandonned boats along the shore.
Dylan
PS - my mother worked on the Mulberry harbours - she was a secretary in a building firm and had to sign all sorts of documents saying that she would not talk to anyone about her work. It was also in Southampton that she spent her last night with my dad before his went off to Africa to give that old Rommel a good kicking. They were apart for almost two years while he worked his way back to Britain via Italy.
Seajet
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Dylan,
for a bit of history there's a bollard driven in on the beach just West of Yarmouth IOW which was used to haul a battleship upright after colliding with a liner in Victorian times; amazingly it seems the liner came off best !
Sorry I forget the names of the ships involved but I'm sure someone like L'escargot will oblige; sadly there were quite a few lives lost.
for a bit of history there's a bollard driven in on the beach just West of Yarmouth IOW which was used to haul a battleship upright after colliding with a liner in Victorian times; amazingly it seems the liner came off best !
Sorry I forget the names of the ships involved but I'm sure someone like L'escargot will oblige; sadly there were quite a few lives lost.
Blueboatman
Well-known member
Obvious I suppose but: if you wait until the wind has 5 or 10 knots of southerly component in it, Chichester langstone and Pompey harbours will seem a lot quiter as the M27 road noise isn't present ..
Mobos ditto : only really pervasive on ( sadly) beautiful still days . If the drone doesn't get you, the wash will knock the stuffing out of the sails long after WhizJoe has va va voomed away into the haze...
As for anchoring where one ain't supposed to - in full view n all, how very dare you!- just run the trusty barge into the mud on a falling tide.. With the added bonus that harbourmasters afaik don't walk on mud to collect £14!
Mobos ditto : only really pervasive on ( sadly) beautiful still days . If the drone doesn't get you, the wash will knock the stuffing out of the sails long after WhizJoe has va va voomed away into the haze...
As for anchoring where one ain't supposed to - in full view n all, how very dare you!- just run the trusty barge into the mud on a falling tide.. With the added bonus that harbourmasters afaik don't walk on mud to collect £14!
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dylanwinter
Active member
I did consider just running up on the mud
and I do it all the time
- but not having seen the river at low tide I did not know where to park myself. I assume that in places the banks are fairly steep to
sadly there were no locals around to ask about the precise geography of Monty's bottom