long range in production boat

[fishingaz]

hi as a keen looker but not much experiance in yachting .i am asking if i bought a bavaria or catalina 36 to 42 feet stock boat from either croatia turkey or the usa .could a proffesinal delivery sailer sail this type of vessel to australia without masses of expencive modifications been done?or could a standad boat do this distance as a stock type boat? thanks for any info.gary mooloolaba australia.

 

[BrendanS]

any delivery skipper worth the wages would want the boat to be set up for such a voyage.

There are plenty of boats that have made the trip. Why not buy one of those that have already arrived in Aussieland? Already proven their abilities, and fully equipped

 

[Bajansailor]

Gary, I think you would find that the cost of delivering a yacht by sea to Australia would be substantial.

There are many fine sailing yachts built in Australia - get yourself a copy of 'Trade A Boat' magazine (I still have a couple from 1999, when I visited your wonderful country) - if they are still being published - and see what is available within.

Or have a look at their on line brokerage at http://www.boatpoint.com.au

 

[TigaWave]

The only modifications I would want, would be, inner forestay, bigger bilge pump x 2, more harness attachment points in the cockpit and a better means of securing the hatch from either inside or out.

On the accessory list essentials would be good self steering, and spares, storm sails, jack stays, towed generator, life raft, epirb. 2 gps systems, charts. 2 anchors both with chain. spare lengths of rigging wire. Spare headsail (no2) as well as the storm jib.

You might have to allow for the situation where any weakness showing up would mean the skipper would get off at the next stop until it was fixed. There will probably be repairs needed whilst on route.

Expect $25,000AUD for wear and tear costs to the boat + delivery costs. Steering, goose neck, kicker, running rigging and sails will all suffer quite a bit of wear. You'll end up with a boat with 10 years worth of normal wear.

 

[fishermantwo]

http://yachthub.com.au/

Easier site to search than boatpoint. Its a buyers market. Check out the NZ yachts as well.

 

[Lizzie_B]

Go to www.catalinayachts.com and click on dealer locator, and then on 'other country customers'
There are the contact details for Catalina dealers in Australia and New Zealand.

Besides all the hassle factors of equiping and finding delivery skipper and crew for such a long distance,plus issues with importing a yacht from overseas, I cannot think that there would be any financial pluses buying abroad.

Usually the main dealers also have a good stock of secondhand Catalinas that customers have traded in for the next size up.
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[Gypsy]

As others have said, it would be feasible but expensive for a delivery skipper/crew to take the boat to AUS. From the estimate given you could ship it on container vessel for not much more.

I bought a yacht in Europe, cruised for 5 years and then shipped it back to Sydney just recently. If you would like to discuss any of this send me a PM and we can excahnge phone numbers for a chat.
Ray

 

[TradewindSailor]

I wouldn't even try taking a Bavaria on a trans-Atlantic.

If you're going to deliver one to Aus from the Med you'd either go West thro' the Panama or East via Suez or Rio and the Cape of Good Hope. Either way you'll be overloading what is a lightly built boat. The thought of taking one to 40 deg South causes me great concern. If it gets to Aus at all expect a great deal of wear an tear and maybe some significant structural damage.

Just look at the boats that don't make it across from the Canaries to the Caribbean ..... and that's an easy route /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[photodog]

Their is no cheap way of getting a boat!!

Delivering a stock boat to Aus can be done, I know of a few Jeunneau's that have gone to SA on their own hull, but the cost will be high, Buy something already out their, used and cheap.

My concern on all the recent losses to the Caribean seems to be about the rudders, almost all of these boats seem to have been lost through rudder failure. Seems that these spade rudders really need looking at, the boats dont seem to sink, (witness the Bavaria 350 which was abandoned then retrieved after it driffted across the pond on its own accord), but are still abandoned because they cant be sailed.

BTW, as for Bavarias, When Horizon set up their opperation in the BVI's the first boat they had was a Bavaria 34, (Circa 99) which they sailed across the pond!

So, I dont think its nessecarily the lightness of the boats, its the Rudders that are the issue.

As for getting one out to Aus, surely the price will be cheaper in the end buying out there!