Long distance cruising - Hedoniste/Endurance staysail ketch up for sale

[Sgeir]

Perhaps it's our age, but we tend to go for stability and good handling in a blow, so our previous boat was a Roberts 34 which, for reasons of comfort, we sold and then bought a Vancouver 34P in 2016.

A couple years earlier, we were joined in the harbour at Tory Island by an Hedoniste/Endurance 44, "Inspiration of Swilly". If I remember the details correctly, her owner had sailed her singlehanded from the States and had done quite a lot work on her. Having been shown around "Inspiration", we were impressed and considered buying a Endurance 38 that was on the market at around that time.

Anyway, I noticed on Facebook that "Inspiration" is up for sale. At 44', it really is too big for own cruising needs, but I would certainly have been tempted if we didn't already have the Vancouver.

Apart from having met him briefly six years ago, I have no connection with the owner or his boat, but wondered if anyone would be interested in her for long distance cruising. She is based in Sligo. Mr Google can supply the details.

 

[wully1]

I looked seriously at getting an Endurance a good few years ago and went as far as getting one surveyed but the owner was delusional about the price as it needed totally re decked - there were mushrooms growing out the beam shelf in places..

Probably a lucky escape for me.

 

[zoidberg]

This is a prophecy.

There will be lots of fine boats for sale, come March '21.

 

[jac]

This is a prophecy.

There will be lots of fine boats for sale, come March '21.

based on?

being slightly hopeful as i was planning on buying this year but Covid rather put paid to that so will start looking properly again soon!

 

[zoidberg]

based on?

ISTR that the end of March/start of April is when new marina and insurance contracts are due to be agreed. Typically, several thousands of pounds..... Owners who have desultorily hoped through the winter that 'someone would come along soon with a better offer' are now facing the Hard Cash Reality..... and a fresh attack of 'angina of the wallet'.

That's when yottie 'carpetbaggers' are best poised to strike.

And if there's a lean and hungry broker involved, one can have a peek at their fees and calculate - just as they will do - that they'd rather have 85% of a certainty than 100% of nothing..... so a positive word asserting willingness to conclude swiftly could harden the resolve to persuade a client to agree.

 

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ISTR that the end of March/start of April is when new marina and insurance contracts are due to be agreed. Typically, several thousands of pounds..... Owners who have desultorily hoped through the winter that 'someone would come along soon with a better offer' are now facing the Hard Cash Reality..... and a fresh attack of 'angina of the wallet'.

That's when yottie 'carpetbaggers' are best poised to strike.

And if there's a lean and hungry broker involved, one can have a peek at their fees and calculate - just as they will do - that they'd rather have 85% of a certainty than 100% of nothing..... so a positive word asserting willingness to conclude swiftly could harden the resolve to persuade a client to agree.

Having sold earlier in the summer I’m now a buyer and have been surprised by how many owners and brokers have been dazzled by the buyers‘ market and therefore have been totally unrealistic and intransigent regarding price and negotiation more broadly. I’m pretty sure many boats are now heading for a winter of discontent followed by perhaps a realisation of the past summer of folly.

 

[Beneteau381]

ISTR that the end of March/start of April is when new marina and insurance contracts are due to be agreed. Typically, several thousands of pounds..... Owners who have desultorily hoped through the winter that 'someone would come along soon with a better offer' are now facing the Hard Cash Reality..... and a fresh attack of 'angina of the wallet'.

That's when yottie 'carpetbaggers' are best poised to strike.

And if there's a lean and hungry broker involved, one can have a peek at their fees and calculate - just as they will do - that they'd rather have 85% of a certainty than 100% of nothing..... so a positive word asserting willingness to conclude swiftly could harden the resolve to persuade a client to agree.

plus of course after Dec 31st, the American boat market will be open to us?

 

[38mess]

I know of at least two people actually giving a boat away for free in February when it's failed to sell through the winter months, ok they were not gin palaces, but we'll found little sailing cruiser, saves a few grand on fees, especially when another boat has already been bought.

 

[Lucy52]

plus of course after Dec 31st, the American boat market will be open to us?

That is what I thought, but on second thought it might not make much difference.

The duty on yachts is quite low and unless there is a tariff free agreement for gentlemen's yachts then then it will remain or go to WTO rates. The chancellor is unlikely to do away with VAT given the debt we are now in so I don't hold out for any reduction on taxes.

We will probably retain RCD as I believe it is embodied in British law now, and the green emission regulations might be difficult to change with tree huggers around, probably a good thing.

The cost of collection and delivery will be the same, so all in all I don't see much will change.