London. A World Capital ?

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Gallions Dock. Closed.
Limehouse. Not accepting visitors.
West India Dock. Not accepting visitors .
South Dock. Plans passed to go 100% residential.
Chelsea Harbour No visitors and good luck getting your yacht mast under the bridges.
Only option left St Kats and very very limited mooring, no wonder some hedge fund has just paid £300M for it.
Wonder if any other world capital would not a give monkeys about providing somewhere for folks who really like to spend spend spend , to plug in their shore power at the end of long day.
A bit parochial or is the Thames still merely somewhere to dump old Tesco Waitrose trolleys.
 
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How does it compare with other capital cities, like New York or Paris for instance. Went to Paris a long time ago (before I had a boat), but seem to remember there being a big marina.
Not been to New York, but would imagine that seeing as Manhatton is an island, it must have a few marinas scattered around?
 
London pre covid had 19.7 million day visits ? 1.3 million overnight stays (cityoflondon.gov.uk)
It is being made harder for vehicles to enter the city and public transport seems preferable
Seems expensive to provide a berth which takes up a lot of valuable space, adds to the envirinmental pollution and in the grand scale of things adds virtually no benefit to the city?
 
Rappey said:
London pre covid had 19.7 million day visits ? 1.3 million overnight stays (cityoflondon.gov.uk)
It is being made harder for vehicles to enter the city and public transport seems preferable
Seems expensive to provide a berth which takes up a lot of valuable space, adds to the envirinmental pollution and in the grand scale of things adds virtually no benefit to the city?
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The space you refer to makes up 70% of the worlds surface and tends to replenish itself without needing public or private funding and tends not to asphyxiate the local population in the process.
All the infrastructure is and has been in place for the last few hundred years due to the curious Victorian ability to build stuff that lasts.
We have skippers in our club who have taken boats to both Paris and Berlin, surely a visit to London should not be difficult.

“somewhere for [yachties] who really like to spend spend spend” 🤣🤣🤣

In Ramsgate a while ago , moored nearbye a yacht wearing a Stars and Stripes bigger than my boat,.
Being bloody nosy, wandered across for a chat, he had just arrived in UK, his next stop was St Kats .................for a month or two, his daughter was studying in a London hospital.

Showing typical English generosity, gave him my laminated and free PLA "Guide to the Thames" did wipe off the coffee cup rings , the anti foul spots remained. :)
Why is this not on the radar of TfL ?
 
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Rappey said:
London pre covid had 19.7 million day visits ? 1.3 million overnight stays (cityoflondon.gov.uk)
It is being made harder for vehicles to enter the city and public transport seems preferable
Seems expensive to provide a berth which takes up a lot of valuable space, adds to the envirinmental pollution and in the grand scale of things adds virtually no benefit to the city?
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That would be a silly reply in the daily mail.
In a boating forum 🤔
 
Rappey said:
London pre covid had 19.7 million day visits ? 1.3 million overnight stays (cityoflondon.gov.uk)
It is being made harder for vehicles to enter the city and public transport seems preferable
Seems expensive to provide a berth which takes up a lot of valuable space, adds to the envirinmental pollution and in the grand scale of things adds virtually no benefit to the city?
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There's clearly demand yet there are acres of dock space filled with nothing more productive than green slime and other flotsam.
 
Have been advised that most of the problem appears to be operating the access lock(s)
Either who pays the staff and/or cost of maintenance
The fewer number of times the lock is operated the longer it will last before requiring a major refurb.
A residential marina lock might open once a week and take in a full load each time.
A marina for short term visitors would have to open on demand, perhaps for a single boat.
 
Maintenance overhead is not governed by operating cycles, if anything hydraulic equipment suffers more from disuse than frequent use. Locks can be automated or monitored/operated remotely, but then is there really a need for locks? Docks were created for very large ships, certainly any basins dug after 1900 will be deep enough to not need a lock at all for most leisure craft.
 
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Maintenance overhead is not governed by operating cycles, if anything hydraulic equipment suffers more from disuse than frequent use. Locks can be automated or monitored/operated remotely, but then is there really a need for locks? Docks were created for very large ships, certainly any basins dug after 1900 will be deep enough to not need a lock at all for most leisure craft.
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Swing bridge too for Limehouse. Shame I preferred Limehouse to St Kat’s when I was going that way.
 
penfold said:
Maintenance overhead is not governed by operating cycles, if anything hydraulic equipment suffers more from disuse than frequent use. Locks can be automated or monitored/operated remotely, but then is there really a need for locks? Docks were created for very large ships, certainly any basins dug after 1900 will be deep enough to not need a lock at all for most leisure craft.
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ST Kats will have no water at all in the marina if the lock was not in place ?

Charts shows South Dock and ST Kats would dry out, access to West India at LW would be marginal even on neaps.
Everything inside all would need to be able take the ground ?
 
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