LM 30/32 - how do they sail?

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Idly contemplating the future and the viability of buying a boat to live on for half the year or so, I wondered if one of these would fit the bill. I am drawn to the idea of the wheelhouse and the sizeable engine, but at the same time has quite attractive lines (unlike the Konsort duo which looks like a shed - IMHO) In most conditions sailing would be preferable to motoring so performance under sail would need to be adequate if not sparkling.

Any experiences or views please?
 
From yatchtsnet
'The LM30 is a double-ended Scandinavian motorsailer, built to a high quality standard. Although clearly a motor-sailer, the LM30 is actually a surprisingly good sailing boat. They were designed from the outset to be easy to handle, with all lines led back to the well protected cockpit. Both bilge keel and fin keel versions were built, both having surprisingly good sailing performance'
Like the look of them.
also previous thread http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259772
 
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I knew a guy who moved up to one after an Elizabethan 24 (drop keel) & he was delighted with the way it sailed. Given that the Elizabethan 24 is no slouch (for it's size) I suspect the LM should be OK.

I'd have one like a shot but for 2 issues, they are long fin keel & somewhat pricey too. But the high price reflects their desireability & not everyone is a dyed in the wool twin keeler like me. :rolleyes:
 
There are 3 LM's on the moorings near me, two which are used regularly and one which has sat on its' mooring without moving for a good five years, growing mould and weed and with its' uncovered sails slowly rotting away.

Very well built and very roomy, I would imagine it would be a comfortable boat to live on board for lengthy periods.
 
I'd have one like a shot but for 2 issues, they are long fin keel & somewhat pricey too. But the high price reflects their desireability & not everyone is a dyed in the wool twin keeler like me. :rolleyes:

Is it possible you're mixing them up with another model in the range? Yachtsnet seems to think they came in fin (not long) and bilge keel versions.

Pete
 
Is it possible you're mixing them up with another model in the range? Yachtsnet seems to think they came in fin (not long) and bilge keel versions.

Pete

OK so they are not a full length keel, but I wouldn't confuse them with a racing fin keel! Never come across a twin keeler, perhaps because they are Scandinavian there is little demand for them.
 
LM 30

Currently sitting in Weymouth Harbour on my twin keel LM30 having had a fabulous sail from Newtown Creek on Saturday. Easterly wind 22 to 25 knots with a slightly bouncy sea but full sails up and 8.5 to 9 knots over the ground for most of the way. Reefed about 3 miles from Weymouth when the wind got up a bit. The twin keels are correctly shaped for sailing performance unlike my last boat, a Snapdragon 747 bilge keeler. Have previously spent 3 months on board cruising N and W France in the LM with no problems.
 
Currently sitting in Weymouth Harbour on my twin keel LM30 having had a fabulous sail from Newtown Creek on Saturday. Easterly wind 22 to 25 knots with a slightly bouncy sea but full sails up and 8.5 to 9 knots over the ground for most of the way. Reefed about 3 miles from Weymouth when the wind got up a bit. The twin keels are correctly shaped for sailing performance unlike my last boat, a Snapdragon 747 bilge keeler. Have previously spent 3 months on board cruising N and W France in the LM with no problems.

So that'll be you over there in "Elke Fair" then.... ;)
 
Both the LMs (30 and 32) sail very well and are beautifully thought and fitted out. Another "motorsailor" that sails very well is the Hunter Horizon 32........?
 
Sorry to put a damper on all these fine recommendations. A friend sold his LM 30 after only one season, because it neither sailed nor motored very well. The engine IIRC was only a Bukh 20 and the rig was very small. I never went on it but both he and his son hated it.
 
Maybe LM27?

Sure it wasn't a LM27?
Because that is a piece of sh.. and sails like a floating brick. If you see one, run like h... and don't look back.
The LM30/32's sails well for what they are, and are nice boats.
Personally they're not for me, but a good boat.
Sailed on one regularly years ago, and friends have a 30, which I've rigged and test-sailed for them the last few years.
 
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