LM 27 what to offer

[LittleSister]

. . . and producing engines 24hp to 700hp.

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[Wansworth]

TBH - Price is what YOU are willing to go to ..... Forget looking at market and trying to gauge what is usual price - as sellers ask usually based on their buy in years before .... this perpetuates an unreal market value.

A lot is said about arguing DOWN price because of blisters ... then if not so bad - live with it. But do you not think that seller is aware of that advice ?

Personally - I set a max price I will pay ... and then offer well below that ... expecting seller to argue more ... but in 4 boats bought - 3 have accepted my first offer ... the other delayed his response - then when he accepted 2 days later - I had revised my offer down as I had already told him that offer was only valid for that day. He accepted the reduced offer.

Sorry but some are going to say I'm a 'cad' for that ... but money is money. I do not give it out lightly.

I got a rocket from the forum for mentioning I had offered a low offer……….yet that boat is still for sale at the price I offered two years later

 

[ChromeDome]

For your comparison, 17 LM are for sale over here (LM's home market) today (the one at 20.000 DKK isn't an LM, just a broker trying to piggyback the brand name). Photos FYI too!

The 27-model asking prices vary from £5850 to £19850

Find Lm i Motorsejlere - Køb brugt på DBA

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LM 27 motor sailer, year 1974, 27 feet, 4 berths, fibreglass, 50 hp, Perkins, diesel, inboard engine, freshwater cooled, engine year 1995, width (m) 2.75, depth (m) 0.9, 4000 kg home port Faxe Ladeplads

The boat is sold without mast. (stolen), but it comes with Headsail and Mainsail in good condition as well as Boom, Shouds and stays complete with turnbuckles. Full canopy and winter canopy, anchor with chain, ropes and fenders.

Engine: Powerful freshwater-cooled Perkins 4-108 Diesel, 50 HP installed in the boat in 1995

The boat is sold cheaply as it needs a loving hand.

Located in Faxe Ladeplads.

Fantastically safe DANISH BUILT LM 27, a top-quality family boat with lots of space and equipment. Wheelhouse with steering wheel and steering chair and large cockpit with tiller. Newer skylight in the saloon, newer cushions in the saloon and forward cabin. Leatherette cushions in the cockpit. And lots of maritime cushions.

Forward cabin with 2 berths, saloon with 2 x Queen size beds, large table, bar and shelves.

Electric sea toilet with holding tank and deck pass-through (2020).

Specs: L: 8.35 W: 2.75 D: 0.95 m, 4 tonnes.

This is the LM version with the large mast (10.5m) - which has just been cleaned and polished, newly renovated with, among other things, new halyards and mainsheet and kicking strap in dyneema (2022). Shrouds & stays are checked and ok. New Selden roller forestay (2019). Well-functioning and newly renovated sails (2022). New Lazyjack and back (2020). All are made by a professional sailmaker & rigger. Newer Schultz summer and winter canopies (2023/unused).

Simrad autopilot, 10" plotter, magnetic compass (2020), complete anchor box and fixed anchor rope reel (2023), bow thruster (2023), new fantastic and efficient LM rudder 40% larger (2020), haul-in line, granny line and lots of newer ropes. 8 fenders. Boat hook. 2 winch handles. New unmounted remote control for bow thruster included.

Safety equipment: VHF with DSC (2020), echo sounder with fish finder, magnetic compass (2020), throw line with lifebuoy, automatic light buoy, fire blanket, heat reflective blanket, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, powerful new manual bilge pump and an electronic bilge pump with guard (2019).

Electricity: Complete 220v shore power system with advanced charger and parts relay and strategically placed sockets on board. All 12-volt completely renovated, replaced and new switchboard with electronic fuses (2021). 1 battery starter motor, 1 battery consumer power, 2 batteries bow thruster.

New bulbs in lanterns and brand new top lantern. All work is carried out regularly by a professional marine electrician. Galley: Original LM gas cooker with 2 burners, safety system and 2x3kg bottles - correctly fitted. Sink with pressurised water 120L tank - renovated in 2019. Well-working fridge, all kitchen equipment and maritime tableware.

Engine: BUKH DV36. 36HP 3 cylinders. Runs like a dream, approx. 4000 hours. Consumption at 5-6 knots approx. 1.5 L/hour. Diesel tank 120 L. Renovated for DKK 45,000 in 2018. Spring & autumn service and maintenance every year by a professional engineer. Equipped with DeepSeaSeal. Silencer on intake. All freshwater, seawater and fuel hoses were inspected / replaced. All seacocks were replaced (2020) by composite.

In addition, a lot of practical equipment, spare parts, etc. is included. Sales price only DKK 170,000 incl. all equipment - launched and ready for new adventures. Stands on land in Vallensbæk - the price can be negotiated a little if you prepare it for launching yourself.

Full diesel tank, the value of almost DKK 3,000!

 

[SGr8]

For your comparison, 17 LM are for sale over here (LM's home market) today (the one at 20.000 DKK isn't an LM, just a broker trying to piggyback the brand name). Photos FYI too!

The 27-model asking prices vary from £5850 to £19850

Find Lm i Motorsejlere - Køb brugt på DBA

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That's great thank you gives quite a good comparison on value.

 

[harvey38]

I can't answer any of your questions but what a lovely looking vessel

 

[ChromeDome]

Also note, that some were fitted out by others than the manufacturer.

Might influence value.

LM boats from 1967 to 1994

LM boats have now trawled Danish and foreign waters for four decades, and many of these boats were built as kits by enthusiastic people with dreams of distant horizons. Some had the craftsmanship background to fit out a boat - others not so much. As a result, there are many LM boats sailing around that you can't tell if they're shipyard-built or a self-build project. With other boats, it will be more visible that the boat has been a self-build project. If the boats are built roughly according to the building instructions, the boats will still be fully functional and safe to sail as if they were factory-built. However, most of the boats have now had so many changing owners that two similar boat types rarely look the same today in terms of layout, interior design and equipment. These changes to the boats can perhaps be positively characterised as a continuous further development of the boats. The individual boats have also undergone change and development - modifications - from the shipyard over the years of production. This is evident on the LM 23, which at one point had a separate toilet room installed and was renamed LM 23 Comfort. The LM 27 has also undergone the same change, as in 1984 the boat was fitted with moulded-in winch consoles in the cockpit sill and was delivered from the shipyard with aluminium windows and a closed wheelhouse as on the LM 26 and LM 28. The only certain identification of the LM Mark II besides the frame number is the fibreglass moulded-in winch consoles, where the regular LM 27 has stainless steel winch consoles fitted.

 

[Tranona]

That's great thank you gives quite a good comparison on value.

I see that the boat is stored undercover with the mast off. This gives a good opportunity to have the rig checked over and it necessary do any repairs or replacements. Also suggest make the offer subject to the mast being stepped and a sea trial.