Liveaboad in southern Italy - Naples region

[whitney_ann]

Hi,
I am trying to locate a marina in the Naples region where I can liveaboard. Any information would be grateful.

Thanks

 

[trouville]

There are hundreds of small ports,all are near a train station and market, it depends on how big and what draft your boat has.Crime isent a problem as the mafia sail as well! You just have to visit several and see how you get on with the "capitan" of the port-he wont come to you you have to look for him,try to get an idea what the local boats think of him first!
Its a rather "simple" tatty area, or of course the opposite!

 

[MedMan]

Trouville obviously had a better time in the Naples area than I did. It is one of the few areas in the Med that I shall quite definitely not visit again. Vesuvius, Pompeii and Herculaneum are well worth a visit but the area is heavily polluted, very run down and the hinterland contains some extremely dodgy areas.

I assume there is some good reason why you need to be in this area? If there isn't, I really do advise you to think again.

 

[trouville]

Naples has the best "cornetto" and bread in Italy!!The people are nice,normaly,But rip offs awful,Very Dirty very crowded,very interesting--
I prefer other areas, but i enjoy eating in simple cheep and good eateries drinking good local wine and having a free place, in a safe (weather wise) harbour. It certainly has atmospher!
The places i stayed were very very rough, very dirty,but its was ok. i drew the line at one place where the train passed very close,not for the noise but becouse the it through powdered iron on my deck and had rust spots every where.
Also my wooden boat looked very tatty,in keeping with the area as i was on the way the Elba to paint her (and the decks)
Its everything you say it is and worse!!But no theift!!!!

 

[bbilly]

Also the best coffee, the best pizza and tomato sauce, the best ice-cream and Sophia L is Napolitan and she sure has attributes! Across the bay there is Capri and the coastline down to Amalfi is beautifull. Napoli is a dirty city, but as Trou implies it is a living city. Napolitans due to their precarious situation invent ways to get the next meal but the are big hearted, emotional and wonderfull people, don't be put off by apperances. If you want a posh mooring hop across to Capri and pay €150 a day (if they let you in)!

 

[liane]

Hello Whitney_Ann, sorry for my english.

This is only my opinion: Napoli is a beautifull city only for visit and live for a while. I prefer liveboard in the nord, Toscana-Lazio-: more security. There is a new marina (new-new) near Castiglioncello: quite place, good service, the prices are so-so: near Firenze,Livorno,Roma. <font color="brown"> </font>

 

[Anonymous]

Hi, and welcome to the forum. Thanks for the info on Castiglioncello. I am making notes in my pilot (Rod Heikell); is the marina due east and on the south side of Pta Castiglioncello, in the small rocky harbour? If not, where is it in relation to that harbour? I would like to find out more and speak to them - do you happen to know the prices or maybe the website address, or the name of the marina? Many thanks, David

 

[liane]

In this moment i'm living in a spanish marina: Costa Blanca. Next summer we will go there, Marina Cala de Medici, for liveboard for one year and sailing around.
If you need more informacion please....


The web site is:


http://www.calademedici.net/


p.s. sorry for my english

 

[Anonymous]

Thank you - it looks like a very nice marina in a good location. I will phone them to see what they charge for a winter stay. Please don't apologise for your English - it is good of you to contribute your local knowledge to us. Perhaps we will meet in Marina Cala de Medici.

 

[Matrosen]

The web site gives prices (Tariffe) for a year. For my boat = Euros 6500!
Spain. Costa del Sol=Euros3500. Mililla (Spanish enclave in Morocco)
Euros 1500. 'Nuff sed.

 

[Anonymous]

Most Italian marinas are more expensive than Spanish ones and if one wants to be in Italy then that's the downside.

 

[liane]

It's true, north Italy marinas are very expensive, but they are safety, good and in a good position.

Please, this is a marina's south Italy web site:

http://www.harbours.net/

maybe there is some interesting.

 

[JoeAnthony]

Does anyone have experience establishing elective residency as a retiree in Italy -- as a liveaboard?

Steps required:
1. Before entering Italy -- get from the consulate: visto per dimora - long stay visa/elective residence visa (must meet financial, health insurance and housing requirements)
2. Upon arrival -- get from the questura: permesso di soggiorno (PdiS) - permit to stay
3. Finally, from the comune: get residenza - residency - permit

These are the requirements if one were to buy or rent long-term as an expatriate; however, I'm wondering if the same rules apply if one were to purchase a yacht and live aboard (or cruise) in Italian waters. I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, so I am going to try to post this as a new subject as well. Thanks -- Antares

 

[charles_reed]

I'd agree totally with MedMan.

The Bay of Naples is dirty, overcrowded and expensive. I spent 6 weeks there and the ferry-wash makes every anchorage and marina a heaving trampoline.

You could try Chiaollella or the new San Catt' marinas on Procida - but they're as expensive as UK S coast marinas and the whole area is overpopulated with boats (mainly powerboats).

Far better to go round the corner and try in Salerno.

 

[trouville]

Salernos well boreing! i agree about Naples but you have to explore the lesser moorings.
Salaerno has changed there isent always room its also expenive £35 pn for 12m though i dident pay but to find the transit and then a free place is not easy

And sadly it really boreing 20mins walk to the station everything closed over lunch shabby shops with shick prices; almost--best thing about Salerno is the train to Naples!!

 

[charles_reed]

Naples & Salerno

Well how interesting, that we should have 2 such diametrically opposite views - mind you I only spent 6 weeks in the Bay of Naples in Sept-Oct 2004, looked at 12 marinas and 14 anchorages.

Salerno is a nice little town and for yachties a far less daunting place than Naples. Perhaps all the other Italians are misleading when they warn visitors against Naples and the petty crime, begging and filth.

Salerno on the other hand is law-abiding, scruplously clean and, in common with all Italy including Naples, closed for midi. It even has a pleasant municipal opera theatre where I saw an excellent performance of "Tosca".
The Old Town has had an extensive makeover and is quite charming.
There are drawbacks - only a couple of decent restaurants, the traffic and (for the more handicapped, the distance to the new town, station and shops from the harbour.
Above all it has that gorgeous Costa Amalfitana with Rapallo, whereas Naples just has miles of filthy beaches and derelict industrial buildings.
I spent a total of 11 days there and paid, in total, €35 for water, electricity and pourboires.

Still when they get there whitney_ann can judge for themselves.

 

[Anonymous]

Did you get to Ischia? I was last there in the 1970s - what's it like there today?

 

[trouville]

I agree with you that if i went to salerno for the first time now i could see it the way you do. Your opinion or Salerno and Napels is probably the one to listen to and very true.

Ive been sailing and visiting Italy since the 60s(in my parents yacht) and there have been changes. Salerno and the south in gereral have seen the most changes and that since the 80s

When i looked in 2003 in at Salerno with my son althought ive seen the changes i regreted the changes brought about by the Euro high prices,and the parents passing their vin e olios on the the childeren who through out the wooden tables chairs abanbond red wine fresh salad and bread for 3000 lira (to old customers) and replace it with bier and pizza for 12000lira (6euros)

In Napels a place we seldom went or stayed for long you still find real life simple cafes good food and proper markets,but it is very very rough dirty indeed the old abandond factories the dumped rubbish all there and of course one of the few places you have to be very aware of rats with 4 legs, thankfully they only come up the lines they can swim but cant climb the hull!!! ukkkk but you get used to seeing them and just make sure your rat guards are big enough thats enough.

Theift from the boat isent a question for many reasons including that there are no foreign boats there, and its a very small comunity in which nothing goes unseen.

Sadly im giving up Italy as a crusing ground becouse of the changes and the prices,The port in Salerno is well run? easy going has a good yard, you can find most things you need though not in the center but up behind the station along the main street there.Not the traffic free one the one Behind the stn.

Also there are or were still a few shops for boat things not always to expensive on the road going in the opposite direction from the traffic free one starting by the stn.Unless they have now close up??

What you say gives a far more realistic point of veiw than mine,which is based on somthing thats almost gone.And indeed i cant imagin anyone at least very few sailing about the Naples area if they arrive for the first time!!

No doubt in 10years time i will come down from my new crusing area eat plastic pizza drink gas free soft drinks, paying with a visa gold and think it great.

 

[Metabarca]

Re: Naples &amp; Salerno

Charles,
I think your cerebral C-map blipped; you must have meant Amalfi, not Rapallo!
Trouville,
come round to the northern Adriatic: nous sommes réelement très sympa, c'est propre et pas trop cher!

 

[trouville]

Re: Naples &amp; Salerno

where? dont you have the bora there??and lots of Germany in mobos???and need a navigation permit that cost $1000?? or has it changed?