Lining out lockers - advice sought pl's

[Scotty_Tradewind]

I have a number of lockers that have been lined in the past. A vinyl cloth with a foam backing was used.
The foam has perished and the whole lot falls away and is difficult to glue back.

What are the options to line a locker with to help keep condensation at bay and to enable them to be wiped out easily?

 

[Gordonmc]

This is an on-going job for me too.
The original lining was ordinary 10mm foam which held moisture and has been breaking up.
I am replacing with closed cell foam camping mats.

 

[Seajet]

I used proper waterproof 'carpet', used to be called 'Floatex 21' I believe, don't know if that is still going or there must be a modern version.

Thin, not exactly foam backed but works brilliantly for lining lockers.

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

Hi Gordon/Seajet
Thanks to you both for posting on this.
I've considered carpet but others who have tried it suggest there may be a risk of getting mold/mould growing in it which I want to avoid risking.
The closed cell camping mats sounds good. What do you attach it with, Evostick or similar? What thickness and where from?
I guess it would also stop anything rattling around too much in the lockers as well?
S.

 

[Seajet]

Scotty,

the stuff I'm on about isn't like normal household carpet, it's hard to describe but it's a VERY short dense acrylic sort of stuff, imagine something like velvet but much closer weave - as I say, hard to describe !

I don't get any problems with mould on it, and have to admit my boat does get mould in other places over the winter if I'm not careful...

I haven't tried googling, but as I say it used to be called Floatex 21, I expect someone in the marine upholstery trade will recognise that.

 

[prv]

Are these lockers low in the boat, against the hull?

Mine are unlined without any problem. If I did decide to line them, I'd probably try to find some heavy rubber matting. Something a bit like car floor mats, although probably with a perforated / mesh pattern rather than solid. You sometimes see this kind of stuff as industrial flooring.

Pete

 

[prv]

I haven't tried googling, but as I say it used to be called Floatex 21, I expect someone in the marine upholstery trade will recognise that.

My grandma's kitchen used to be floored with something I knew as Flotex, probably the same stuff?

Pete

 

[Poignard]

Have you considered using anti-condensation paint?
eg

http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wc...ay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=037608

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

Scotty,

the stuff I'm on about isn't like normal household carpet, it's hard to describe but it's a VERY short dense acrylic sort of stuff, imagine something like velvet but much closer weave - as I say, hard to describe !

I don't get any problems with mould on it, and have to admit my boat does get mould in other places over the winter if I'm not careful...

I haven't tried googling, but as I say it used to be called Floatex 21, I expect someone in the marine upholstery trade will recognise that.

Looking at Google it does seem to be a likely product, thanks Seajet
S.

 

[floebs]

The closed cell camping mats sounds good. What do you attach it with, Evostick or similar? What thickness and where from?
I guess it would also stop anything rattling around too much in the lockers as well?

Hi Scotty, I'm doing just as you described at the moment. Lining (little by little) the whole hull. I've started on the 1/4 berth hull sides with 1/2inch foam camping mats, and am gradually working through the whole boat - its amazing what a difference it makes!!

Another forumite put me on to this idea - he used IMPACT, from Evo Stik. I managed to find 500ml tins from a local hardware store - Selco - for about £6. You need to coat both sides - the hull and the back of the mat - then when touch dry, stick in place. I got my camping mats from a variety of places: 2nd hand stores, charity shops, dollar stores. Doesnt really matter what they look like in the lockers, but I try to keep the 'nice' ones for anywhere thats visible. I have some other thinner stuff I'm using on the cabin roof, but just trying to get the hull and large locker spaces done first.

There's some good info in this thread:
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291757&highlight=insulation

Hope this helps!

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

Have you considered using anti-condensation paint?
eg

http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wc...ay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=037608

Hi Parsifal, no I thought that a soft lining of some sort would stop things rattling around as well as help keep condensation at bay.

S.

 

[Poignard]

Hi Parsifal, no I thought that a soft lining of some sort would stop things rattling around as well as help keep condensation at bay.

S.

Fair enough.

Then have you considered using car carpet? Very good at accomodating compound curves, unlike domestic carpet. You could fix it in place with velcro pads so it would be easy to remove for cleaning or replacement.

 

[christhefish]

re camping mats

I have used heavy duty camping mats to line lockers about 10 mm thick from a proper camping shop not cheap argos ones easy to cut with a stanley or scissors,stuck down with carpet spray adhesive very effective

 

[Gordonmc]

Hi Gordon/Seajet
The closed cell camping mats sounds good. What do you attach it with, Evostick or similar? What thickness and where from?
I guess it would also stop anything rattling around too much in the lockers as well?
S.

I have been using spray-on carpet adhesive, but only enough to keep the mat in place on vertical surfaces.
The cheapest source I have found so far is Lidl, but they only stock them occasionally. This might be a good time to buy with camping shops clearing stocks.

 

[Seajet]

Personally I wouldn't trust evo-stick on a boat ( or anywhere else ! ); I use Bostik for that sort of thing, but watch out for the fumes !

 

[uxb]

Personally I wouldn't trust evo-stick on a boat ( or anywhere else ! ); I use Bostik for that sort of thing, but watch out for the fumes !

I'd especially avoid the new eco friendly Evo Stick. Now they have removed the nasty, evil chemicals it doesn't stick to well..

 

[Graham_Wright]

Personally I wouldn't trust evo-stick on a boat ( or anywhere else ! ); I use Bostik for that sort of thing, but watch out for the fumes !

That's a bit harsh!

 

[Seajet]

No it isn't ! Useless stuff; if the eco-friendly version is less sticky, it must be like teflon !

 

[Blueboatman]

Surely the test is whether you get a headache on opening the tin- yeah, man.

The pongier it is, the stronger it is.

 

[Scarboroughsloop]

If you want insulation to cut down on condensation etc I don't think you could go far wrong taking a similar route to Roger Tayloe on Ming Ming:

http://thesimplesailor.com/photographs.html

An inch may be a bit OTT unless you plan some high latitude sailing......