Line (or LINES - if you MUST!) ashore

[Steve C Cronin]

I think I'm going to revise my anchoring plan in small bays for next season. Instead of anchoring by the bow and taking a line(s) ashore, I think I will in future, drop the stern anchor and then take a line(s) ashore from the bow.


Reasons

1. My wife finds it easier to control the boat with the head into wind at very low or no water speed.

2. Mostly this operation is used with the wind blowing from the shore and we often use the barbecue at anchor so this way around we don't get the boat full of cooking smells and smoke.

3. As the water is often very shallow in such circumstances with invisible underwater rocks, it avoids rudder or sterngear damage.

4. If in close proximity to other boats, as in Fiskardo, it minimises the possibility of spreader damage on adjacent boats when the ferry goes by.

5. The boat is much more pleasant to sleep in with the breeze coming from ahead


The possible disadvantage of a rope rode getting caught around the prop when casting off, will be minimised due to the boat being blown backwards very slowly and therefore allowing the much lighter rope to be recovered very quickly by hand. We also have a Fortress stern anchor which is really easy to man-handle.

 

[Artic Warrior]

I think I'm going to revise my anchoring plan in small bays for next season. Instead of anchoring by the bow and taking a line(s) ashore, I think I will in future, drop the stern anchor and then take a line(s) ashore from the bow.


Reasons

1. My wife finds it easier to control the boat with the head into wind at very low or no water speed.

2. Mostly this operation is used with the wind blowing from the shore and we often use the barbecue at anchor so this way around we don't get the boat full of cooking smells and smoke.

3. As the water is often very shallow in such circumstances with invisible underwater rocks, it avoids rudder or sterngear damage.

4. If in close proximity to other boats, as in Fiskardo, it minimises the possibility of spreader damage on adjacent boats when the ferry goes by.

5. The boat is much more pleasant to sleep in with the breeze coming from ahead


The possible disadvantage of a rope rode getting caught around the prop when casting off, will be minimised due to the boat being blown backwards very slowly and therefore allowing the much lighter rope to be recovered very quickly by hand. We also have a Fortress stern anchor which is really easy to man-handle.

Ah this is a good one and will run longer than the TAX issue one for sure,!!!
Don't mention the A word though,,,,

 

[cmedsailor]

1. My wife finds it easier to control the boat with the head into wind at very low or no water speed.

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Now, that is really strange. Easier to have the bow into the wind, that could turn the boat at any direction, instead of the stern?

 

[RAI]

The Scandinavians use that technique a lot.

 

[srm]

Most modern Scandinavian yachts of 40 ft plus have a proper anchor roller/stowage on the stern with windlass and chain / warp stowage. Smaller ones have a roller or fairlead for the warp and recover with a sheet winch. If you are going to anchor by the stern you need to have a system for recovering the gear while backing up, as you may have to do it with an onshore wind.

Nothing wrong with the method provided that you have the right gear. It is the accepted way to moor in many Scandinavian harbours. The main advantage of a stern anchor/bow line in Scandinavia is that the bow can be pulled close enough to the rocks to step ashore.

 

[Steve C Cronin]

Now, that is really strange. Easier to have the bow into the wind, that could turn the boat at any direction, instead of the stern?

How else would you find a sheltered spot, without an offshore wind and since the stern anchor is keeping you straight?

 

[Steve C Cronin]

Most modern Scandinavian yachts of 40 ft plus have a proper anchor roller/stowage on the stern with windlass and chain / warp stowage. Smaller ones have a roller or fairlead for the warp and recover with a sheet winch. If you are going to anchor by the stern you need to have a system for recovering the gear while backing up, as you may have to do it with an onshore wind.

Nothing wrong with the method provided that you have the right gear. It is the accepted way to moor in many Scandinavian harbours. The main advantage of a stern anchor/bow line in Scandinavia is that the bow can be pulled close enough to the rocks to step ashore.

We have all that kit but on 44ft. However we rely upon a sheet winch (Harken 48s) to wind in the warp. An onshore wind isn't very likely to occur in the morning after anchoring in the evening previous with an offshore one in our part of the Med.

 

[cmedsailor]

How else would you find a sheltered spot, without an offshore wind and since the stern anchor is keeping you straight?

Ah, heading into the wind while dropping the stern anchor. Sorry didn't realise that. Makes perfect sense then.

 

[Tony Cross]

I'm not sure I'd be terribly happy lying to my little fortress kedge overnight and using anything bigger off the stern is hard work retrieving. If it works for you then keep doing that, what you say makes a lot of sense, it wouldn't work for me though.

 

[vyv_cox]

I'm not sure I'd be terribly happy lying to my little fortress kedge overnight and using anything bigger off the stern is hard work retrieving. If it works for you then keep doing that, what you say makes a lot of sense, it wouldn't work for me though.

I like the way that the weight of the chain tends to resist cross-winds when approaching the shore stern-to, whereas with the kedge on rope the boat is far more easily blown sideways. Our windlass is fast, both up and down, which makes going in stern-to a far easier direction for us. I can see that going in bows-to has several good points, especially the barbecue one, but not so convenient for our circumstances.

 

[tedgorton]

I guess I am too set in my ways (and my kedge is too puny) to try what sounds like a logical technique. However if you are talking about the N side of Fiskardo between the taverna and the Venetian lighthouse, where most boats anchor when the pontoon is full or out of order, the prevalent wind is from the NW or WNW, i.e. broadside. add to that the weedy holding that has kept me awake even with my main anchor and 40M of chain out, I would be doubly reluctant. Not criticising, just saying it's not for this codger.

BY THE WAY the webcam at the Captain's Cabin is operative again and appears to show Tassia's Pontoon in its place with the odd boat. Has anybody been there this year?

 

[Steve C Cronin]

I guess I am too set in my ways (and my kedge is too puny) to try what sounds like a logical technique. However if you are talking about the N side of Fiskardo between the taverna and the Venetian lighthouse, where most boats anchor when the pontoon is full or out of order, the prevalent wind is from the NW or WNW, i.e. broadside. add to that the weedy holding that has kept me awake even with my main anchor and 40M of chain out, I would be doubly reluctant. Not criticising, just saying it's not for this codger.

BY THE WAY the webcam at the Captain's Cabin is operative again and appears to show Tassia's Pontoon in its place with the odd boat. Has anybody been there this year?

We have a large Fortress FX 23 as our stern anchor and the boat rotates around midships when steering under power. A chaque un...etc.

BTW, Tassia's pontoon was also there in October last year, as the previous frozen image, on view all through the winter, showed.