FWIW - I called Air France (going to St Martin /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) and asked if I would be able to take auto inflate lifejackets on the plane, and it turned out I was not allowed (at least the CO2 cannister(SP?) was not allowed) - it is in their relevant documentation. So I guess I will just have to buy jackets over there /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
sad that as they seem to be scary price out there...
Our group of "happy charterers" have taken our own lifejackets by plane for the last 4 yrs with absolutely no problem. Some remove the CO2 cylinders and put those in their hand-baggage, others remove them and pack both them and their jackets in their normal luggage.
As mentioned earlier, if you ask the question you will probably get a negative answer.
There's no logic to this in the same way that they won't allow U to use a handheld GPS during the flight either. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Mark, just check with the airline, it is entirely down to the dangerous Goods policy of the individual airline involved. Generally I doubt CO2 cylinders for life jackets should be a problem, but you must check first. Ask them specifically to check their dangerous goods policy, and emphasize lifejackets. Few booking or enquiries staff will have any idea at all and of course it is easier to say No.
For instance, one UK based airline permits a non flammable gas cylinder fitted to a lifejacket containing CO2; 2 small cylinders per passenger and two spares.
They MUST be carried as specified by the airline, ie in hold/hand bag/on person as specified. What may be safe on the person (a butane lighter) can be lethal in the hold...(although they are on the point of being banned outright too)
DO NOT< REPEAT DO NOT listen to the CRIMINALLY irresponsible suggestion of IMBECILES like snowleopard above.
It should be plain to even the meanest intelligence, if I may so misuse the word, that Dangerous Goods on aircraft are restricted because they can cause damage to the aircraft and its contents - ie passengers and crew??? A hundred and something people died in the Valuejet crash in the Everglades some years back because some witless moron thought he knew better than the dangerous Goods regulations. I expect he said "Oh, just pop them in and say nowt..." (You might be able to ask him in 2065.)
An aircraft could easily be destroyed by a can of aerosol paint, gas curling tongs or a butane gas refill in the hold, or a liferaft that blew and jammed the control runs or broke wiring. Thats why those things are classified as dangerous. Accepted that lifejecket cylinders are not obviously hazardous, hence you may be allowed to carry a few of them, but what about a suitcase full? Believe me, some leopard somewhere will try it, that is why the rules are there. You wouldn't smuggle a spare gas bottle onto your mate's yacht and keep it in your kitbag, - or would you??
Have a little more respect for the lives of other human beings. Please.
For God's sake, don't do it!
Dear me, even whilst writing the above rant another nitwit has come up with his particular homespun wisdom on aircraft safety.
Whisper, you allow the airlines to decide on the logic please, they know their buisness better than you do, and read the above to find out why. As far as GPS is concerned, do GPS sets not talk back to the satellite? In any case they have been assessed as having the potential to transmit RF, even if locally, and can therefore by definition interfere with navigation, autopilot or communications. Have you no imagination whatever?
My earlier remarks about staff not knowing the correct policy are borne out by abyusa's post above. The information given is correct as far as it goes but is some way short of the whole story. Still, as abyusa presumably didn't want to cuddle his LJ all the way there it doesn't much matter.
However note there is also a requirement that the operator has given approval for these to be carried, which abyusa has clealy complied with.
I know, its complicated. If unsure, ask! Thats better than your mum getting half a shoe back with alligator tooth marks on it...
the forum is often likened to a yacht club bar and for the most part the debates and banter follow that style. the analogy breaks down when some lout comes in hurling abuse and there is no virtual way to take him out the back and punch his lights out, which is surely what would have happened in the real world!