Scillypete
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The court case finished we have this announcement from the Transport minister see here
Looks like the liver will be getting some time off.
Looks like the liver will be getting some time off.
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Skents
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I suppose it'll be a case of taking the outboard off and rowing the tender back from the pub - hence less than 7m and capable of far less than 7knots. Great news for anyone in the water taxi business!
Emjaytoo
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I suppose it'll be a case of taking the outboard off and rowing the tender back from the pub
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I wish I could take the engine out of my car and peddle it back from the pub!
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I suppose it'll be a case of taking the outboard off and rowing the tender back from the pub
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I wish I could take the engine out of my car and peddle it back from the pub!
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cameronke
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So my 6.7m E-Boat could now become a gin palace?
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B175Chris
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According to YBW news story
"Jet skis will not be included in the regulations for now because the Court of Appeal has ruled that jet skis are not ships and are not therefore within the scope of the existing legislation I intend to consult on extending the legislation to them in due course."
Not wishing to start off another Jetski debate but that does seem very unfair... how is a drunken jet-skier less dangerous to other craft than a drunken captain in charge of a boat?
"Jet skis will not be included in the regulations for now because the Court of Appeal has ruled that jet skis are not ships and are not therefore within the scope of the existing legislation I intend to consult on extending the legislation to them in due course."
Not wishing to start off another Jetski debate but that does seem very unfair... how is a drunken jet-skier less dangerous to other craft than a drunken captain in charge of a boat?
Sultans_Kapitein
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So theoretically . . .
If I live aboard my boat, and need to run the engines for power or heating, if I have a skinful I could be nicked. Is that it or am I being dumb ? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
If I live aboard my boat, and need to run the engines for power or heating, if I have a skinful I could be nicked. Is that it or am I being dumb ? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
awol
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Re: So theoretically . . .
My quick perusal of Section 80 leads me to believe that it only applies to vessels "underway" and , of course, you will be aware that the IRPCS defines that as "not at anchor, or made fast to the shore, or aground."
... but then I'm only an engineer!
My quick perusal of Section 80 leads me to believe that it only applies to vessels "underway" and , of course, you will be aware that the IRPCS defines that as "not at anchor, or made fast to the shore, or aground."
... but then I'm only an engineer!
gjbentley
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The problem with all legislation like this is that is carries little impact unless backed up with necessary resources to police it. Can you see police armed with breathalysers waiting on the tender park pontoon in the marina just after closing time ?
Instead the Insurance profession benefit most when it comes to a claim in this day and age of compensation culture. Health & Safety at Work Act is prime example.
Maybe the rumour about maritime community police being "volunteered" from upright tee-total members of the YBM forum is not so far away /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Instead the Insurance profession benefit most when it comes to a claim in this day and age of compensation culture. Health & Safety at Work Act is prime example.
Maybe the rumour about maritime community police being "volunteered" from upright tee-total members of the YBM forum is not so far away /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
MoodySabre
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Perhaps they'll pay the lifeboat crews to breathalyse anyone in trouble.
They obviously think that a boat under 7 metres is too small to have a drinks cupboard or be chartered by Sunsail in the Solent.
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They obviously think that a boat under 7 metres is too small to have a drinks cupboard or be chartered by Sunsail in the Solent.
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Evadne
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So my 6.7m E-Boat could now become a gin palace?
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Only if you admit, in public, that she is incapable of ever reaching 7 knots. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
So my 6.7m E-Boat could now become a gin palace?
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Only if you admit, in public, that she is incapable of ever reaching 7 knots. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Major Catastrophe
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Perhaps they'll pay the lifeboat crews to breathalyse anyone in trouble.
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Three things, someone may be put off calling for help if they suspect they could be even one milligram over the limit. Secondly, if you are tied up or anchored for the night and a storm blows up when into you second bottle of Chateau Tesco, any act of seeing to the safety of your boat becomes a criminal offence. Lastly, if this makes pub leavers resort to rowing their tenders instead of a 'drive' back to the boat, is that any less dangerous?
As usual we have heavy handed legislation to deal with an almost non existent problem. It should always be that if you cause an accident when in control of a boat and are found to be over the limit, the book should be thrown...hard. It should be the fear of the punishment, not the routine giving out of a punishment.
Perhaps they'll pay the lifeboat crews to breathalyse anyone in trouble.
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Three things, someone may be put off calling for help if they suspect they could be even one milligram over the limit. Secondly, if you are tied up or anchored for the night and a storm blows up when into you second bottle of Chateau Tesco, any act of seeing to the safety of your boat becomes a criminal offence. Lastly, if this makes pub leavers resort to rowing their tenders instead of a 'drive' back to the boat, is that any less dangerous?
As usual we have heavy handed legislation to deal with an almost non existent problem. It should always be that if you cause an accident when in control of a boat and are found to be over the limit, the book should be thrown...hard. It should be the fear of the punishment, not the routine giving out of a punishment.
Sailfree
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The problem with all legislation like this is that is carries little impact unless backed up with necessary resources to police it. Can you see police armed with breathalysers waiting on the tender park pontoon in the marina just after closing time ?
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Can you see the police diverting resources from fighting crime to prosecute motorists going just a few miles over the limit?
Get real - it will be a revenue raising device and the Police will be set targets and the fines will be easier to collect than from criminals of no fixed abode!!
The problem with all legislation like this is that is carries little impact unless backed up with necessary resources to police it. Can you see police armed with breathalysers waiting on the tender park pontoon in the marina just after closing time ?
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Can you see the police diverting resources from fighting crime to prosecute motorists going just a few miles over the limit?
Get real - it will be a revenue raising device and the Police will be set targets and the fines will be easier to collect than from criminals of no fixed abode!!
jhr
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how is a drunken jet-skier less dangerous to other craft than a drunken captain in charge of a boat?
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Looking on the bright side, however, they almost invariably take their jet skis out of the water and hitch them to their (probably uninsured and untaxed /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) white vans which they then drive off in. One little call to the traffic division and Bob's yer uncle.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
how is a drunken jet-skier less dangerous to other craft than a drunken captain in charge of a boat?
[/ QUOTE ] They're not.
Looking on the bright side, however, they almost invariably take their jet skis out of the water and hitch them to their (probably uninsured and untaxed /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif) white vans which they then drive off in. One little call to the traffic division and Bob's yer uncle.... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
B175Chris
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tangofour
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Reckon I'll get a jetski to get back to the boat from the pub when I've had a skinfull.
Bounce off all the big white boats and wake everyone up.
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Bounce off all the big white boats and wake everyone up.
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