Latest PBO - junk

[bob_tyler]

I couldn't disagree more. It is great to see the catalogues lumped together and the advert pages - more interesting than some of the editorial. By that I mean items which may be of great interest to one reader but useless to another. The editorial skill is to produce a balance and I think that PBO's editor does just that.

I don't like the "You have just won £1,000,000" rubbish with expensive 'phone numbers but accept, and dispose, of them mentally thanking the advertiser for keeping the cover price of my magazine down. He can waste his money as long as he likes.

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[Keith]

I buy on average one copy of PBO a year, because as has been stated its the same ads week in week out and once i have the webaddresses there is very little need for the magazine. twelve years ago i was buying it nearly before they put it on the shelf.....but as has been said before once you have read two or three years worth, you can virtually predict what is going to be in each weeks edition......give me trials and motocross news any day theres an editorial that is always worth reading...IMHO...............keith

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[ongolo]

Re: This way - chuck \'em

Well, I live in Africa and I have not received the latest PBO yet.

However, PBO as whole is the only sensible (and the best) magazine for me and often my only link to knowledge and problem solving. In selecting a boat or equipment I have no other ready sources at hand to give me a good opinion, having built my own 55ft gaff schooner at an altitude of 1500m and 400km from the sea, with no other motivation to slog on and no-one interested or knowledgeable around, PBO (late monthly overprints always 4 late) was often my only inspiration to hang on and carry on.

As far as adverts go, even if I dont buy in the UK, I can always judge international prices againt what I am offered and helps me decide to import or buy locally.

Inserted flyers would be welcome to me, it would keep the bulk of PBO's going back to 1986 a lot less to keep on the boat where they are currently.

I have made a data base and can retrieve from a topic issue and page number.

Also flyers would allow me to pass on advertised items to other interested parties ( I am now at the coast where people are interested) can get information on products without me having to lend out my valued PBO mag.

Further, many of these ads contain actual specs to newcomers to select chain sizes for a given boat size, just one example.

The UK is not the world and PBO being a truly international magazine, consider that even a page of glossy paper (ads or anything) to decorate a wall in a poor souls hut in Madagascar or Mocambique, will be swopped for a coconut one day if you venture far enough to visit these places.

Ok guys, cut my throat, I handle it.


Regards Ongolo

22 south 15 east


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[Dave_Knowles]

I can put up with the inserts BUT.

Having just had a quick look through my copy of PBO last night (apart from one insert "Maritime Feedback" that I am still not quite sure what it was about and therefore if it was something that effected me) I was very disappointed in the content. If I look back at old issues (late 1990's) the content far more reflected the magazine title than it does today.

PS. I have just picked up the Maritime feedback in the cold light of day and it was not the red wine I still am not sure if I should take any notice of it so it will have to stay filed in my library beside the bed and just have to climb over it each night.

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Southampton - uk

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[Birdseye]

Re: Aw come on!

As someone has already said, the issue is one of balance. We wouldnt buy the mag without adverts, particularly of boats for sale, but pop ins are irritating for another reason altogether. They make the mag difficult to handle, they often drop out on the floor at WHS (I never buy a mag unless I've leafed through it first) and unless you are a slob you feel obliged to bend down and pick them up. So like many people, having picked them up, bought the mag, I then throw them away unread! Illogical, but true.

Dont accept the forum argument. My other hobby is biking and because the bike magazines didnt start their own forums there have sprung up irreverent un censored privately financed forums. On these, we are able to give frank views of suppliers.

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[[2068]]

Re: Aw come on!

Just so long as the advertisers know that every time I get a new issue, the first thing I do is to shake vigorously over a bin.

Any that escape this process invariably wind up falling into the bath, and then to the bin.

Ads that are actually in the mag get lovingly gazed at multiple times.

I'm not the only one...

dave

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[VicMallows]

Re: Aw come on!

Exactly. And as long as you put it in the correct bin it helps the local authority reach their recycling target.

Vic

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[supermalc]

Re: Aw come on!

"And as long as you put it in the correct bin it helps the local authority reach their recycling target."

Maybe, only it doesn't help the rainforest.
Sorry Vic, just wanted to make a point.
Because of my circumstance, I get to read on here, or hand downs, or do without. Agree with most posts, and have to applaud the author for the forum, and the chance to reply.


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[richardandtracy]

Re: This way - chuck \'em

I occasionally buy PBO in Asda. along with a couple of computer magasines. A couple of years ago I got into the habit of shaking out all the flyers while saying fairly loudly 'I don't want this rubbish'. It caugt on, and after a while Asda helpfully provided a bin. It's now full by 11am. That's how popular flyers are with the majority of people who go to our Asda.

Regards

Richard.


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[DepSol]

One mans junk is another mans treasure. they arent tailoring the mag for you hey are trying to reach a compomise across the board.

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[kimhollamby]

Whoa

Another comment I personally think unfair. You seem to imply comments exchanged on here censored just because they mention companies; simply not true.

The only times interventions have been made are the rare occasions when we face a legal challenge or believe ourselves to be exposed to one. Privately-operated forums would have to take the same action, or face closure either through direct intervention or the ISP getting sucked in to the action. As for irreverence, well I am not particularly keen on that but only because, in the long run, it tends to make the forum exclusive to a very inner sanctum of those in the know and also often spreads misleading information which is no better than the opposite end of the extreme -- not being able to express your own opinion.

I think users of the Reader to Reader forum generally strike a very happy balance and I consider it my job to encourage matters to remain that way without any heavy handed approach.

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[billmacfarlane]

I empty the junk out of it before I leave the shop.

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