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This is quite confusing, perhaps somebody here can give me some help.

I understand that the well known yacht designer Kim Holman, who just recently died designed the Twister. The Twister was built at Uphams in Brixham, which was then owned by Kim Holman's brother (I was informed).

Is that correct?

Kim Holman also very often apears with the abbrevation CR Holman.
What does the abbrevation stand for?

My boat, a 24ft cutter, built 1950 at Uphams, designed by Uphams ( I was informed that Stuart Uphams did the designs) was first owned by a chap named A. Young, Chichester but then 1963 Lloyds registeres CF Holman, Devonport as owner.

Is CF Holman the brother who owned the Uphams boatyard in the 60's? And does anybody have an idea why he should have bought back the 1950 built Uphams boat?
 
I think, but do not know for sure, that "Kim" Holman was also known as "Kit" Holman in which case his first name would have been "Christopher".

Jack may have bought the boat for his own use, or as a dealer - the distinction between running a yard, designing boats and being a yacht broker was less clear cut, then. In particular, if Uphams were building a new boat for a customer they may have accepted the boat in part exchange. This was not uncommon where the boat being "part exchanged" was built by the yard building the new boat.

My own boat was sold to her second owners by Jack Jones, the designer, and not by his brother George Jones, the broker, in 1950. They told me when I bought her in 1984 that they had owned a motor boat which had an engine breakdown off the Sandettie Light and was towed into dover, after which they decided that sailing was safer, and asked jack Jones for his advice. He saidl "I have just the boat for you!" and sold them a 37 foot gaff cutter, which his brother had listed. They duly learned to sail in her - no sailing courses in those days, but no doubt more room in the rivers!

Claude Whisstock had offered to take her predecessor in part exchange from her first owner when he built her.

Hope this helps.
 
It does Andrew.

And it makes sense that when you are satisfied with your boat but want to have a bigger one you first go and ask the boatyard you got your first boat from. And the boatyard will probably accept the boat in part-exchange.

CF Holman, or perhaps more exact the Uphams Boatyard only owned the boat from 1968-1969 and then sold to boat to a chap named P.L. Styles, Brixham who then renamed the boat SIONNACHAN, the name the boat still has.

I just came across that obituary in the recent CB issue and remembered that my boat was once owned by a CF Holman, apparently the brother of Kim Holman.
 
Dear Martin

Was Sionnachan 's original name Caprice II? If so, she is an Uphams Waterbug, a development of one of their 1930s designs - hence the old-fashioned look, even for the 50s. Night Wind (1939) was the prototype, now owned by the Classic sailing Club, and I know of 4 others still sailing: my own (Frangipani - 1957), I saw Rondelle (1957) in Devon a couple of years ago, and another in Northern Ireland in the same year. One more is up for sale on the Boatshed website - but has been converted to a motor-sailer. They were actually built with bermudian sloop rigs, as a one design racing class: I knew at least one had been converted to a gaff cutter - now I know which one!
Wonderful little boats, very fast off the wind and look after you very well in a gale.
 
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