Keeping London free of crime (nb)

ParaHandy

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Just before the New Year, I collected No 2 offspring from London and supervised the chaining of his motor bike in his back garden. Two chains and a disc-brake lock seemed OTT but one can never be too security conscious these days ...

By Tuesday, it had gone ... no trace of it, not even a pile of iron filings ...

A stolen bike report was made to the Met who consulted their data and to our relief they knew of its whereabouts. They had been called to a "bike anti-social behaviour" incident not far away and although failing to apprehend anyone, they did note the registration number of the bikes which had been left behind ....

The PC advised that the bike had yet to be dusted (for fingerprints) and "would sir like to collect it or have it recovered" and "if not collected immediately, it might get stolen again". We opted for recovery, principally to permit the Met to do their forensic stuff, but omitted to ask and neither was it volunteered where it could be recovered from and, at what cost.

We assumed, logically, that the Met would wish the bike to be close at hand for the work they required to do but no. That afternoon the bike was recovered to South Mimms, some 30 miles away, not even in the Met Area, and it would cost £137 to release it ... "the insurance will pay, sir" ...

The bike was viewed at South Mimms this morning. It was a wreck, a total write-off, and would cost a further £35 to scrap it and that was duly done. However, I asked who would be liable for the subsequent rental charge (£12 per day) until the Met (or Herts police) came round to fingerprint it. "Depends how busy they are (so we'll get rid of it anyway)"

So, the Met transported a pile of junk some 30 miles out of London ostensibly to enable fingerprinting which they had no intention of doing. But, the crime statistics notched up in their favour .... bike stolen, bike found and all trace removed from London except, that is, the third party damage done to the local park and the f*cking oik, who stole it, is still free.

There is no moral to this story other than that all three locks had round-key U-bolt type locks and there is a site, apparently, on the internet which tells you how to easily open them and therefore one should eschew attaching anything valuable to them. Hindsight is wonderful ...

Completely by coincidence, on New Year's eve, we reported to the police an incident involving an oik causing trouble. In a short while, a veritable posse of police + dogs + helicopter descended in search of this oik whom "we want to bang up". It transpired that the oik's family were known troublemakers who had been evicted from their previous home in London and re-housed up here.

So there you go .... how the government are keeping London's streets (presumably including where T Bliar lives as he thinks things are getting better) free of crime ...

Happy New Year to youse a' !!

Ps, you have to laugh ..... I went to buy new locks for my own bike today and there were two identical Thatcham approved locks but in different packaging because one had had been packed 6 months earlier than the other. The earlier offered this advice: "a bike is stolen every 14 minutes" whilst the other advised "a bike is stolen every 12 minutes".
 

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Hmmm.

A little googling shows that what you have alluded to is already common knowledge and apparently has been for 4 months.

Always difficult to weigh up whether publicising some flaw in a security device is more helpful to us law abiding types who will use the info to safeguard our property than it is to the theiving scum who will use it to rip us off (pretty much with impunity from plod as you point out). In this case it seems to be such common knowledge within the law abiding community that it must be known to the vast majority of the scumbags.

I use the type of locks you refer to and will be replacing them immediatly.

Thanks for the warning and sorry to hear about your son's bike. I'd be gutted if someone had mine away.
 

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Welcome to the forum mate. Just read your other 2 replies. You a fan of
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We do discuss other things beside boating. Anything contentious is grist to our mill (what ever that means). That is the richness and intellectual stimulation of Scuttlebut. And the fact that there is nothing worth watching on TV.
As an aside, when I lived in S London (does anyone know where that is?), I often forgot to lock my car, parked on the forecourt of my house, and yet it was never 'broken' into. Some brainless idiot did try to remove the radio on finding all the doors unlocked, but it was a built-in one, so couldn't be taken. Not too much damage.
It all depends where you live in London. I was threatened by a (drunk) neighbour and called the Police. They did come, eventually, and as he didn't answer the door, there was nothing they could do, so they left. Scary, nevertheless. One reason why I moved out.
 

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Have you ever noticed, after watching police camera shows, after a thief skids off, rolls the car or bike a few times and finishes with it trying to climb a tree or lamp post; He always gets out and legs it.

Yet, if you roll into someone at 0.01 mph in a car park they will sue you for whiplash. Or if you come off the road at 25mph you will prolly die.

Can someone explain, is it more to do with Neanderthal tendencies?
 

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It's not without its place though. Very useful when you get random visits into old posts from Google and somebody sticks a question or answer onto the end of an old post...

In an ideal world I'd have a toggle on the thread index (like you get for 'show active in the last x weeks'), but I'm not sure how do-able that's going to be. One day maybe.
 

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[ QUOTE ]
And this is why I hate DateSlip - causes the resurrection out-of-date irrelevant posts from 2001 /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Did I miss the middle part of this conversation?
 

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Maybe you have a very different view of the forum, but date slip is wonderful for us peeps who read the forum every day? It puts the posts that are new on threads on top, and allows us to use next/previous buttons to navigate through them. Or am I missing something?
 

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Personal preference really. Admittedly I don't read every post here, but I'm very active on our sister forum Web User.

Personally prefer to see new topics/subjects, rather than reams and reams of replies on the same subject. If I'm interested in the subject of a thread, then I'll keep an eye out for replies to it, or even add it to my reminders or favourites. I check the forum probably hourly, but don't have time to do more than skim through and look for anything of interest. It's the same reason I use flat mode rather than threaded. I'm interested in the thread, not the individual posts...

But I fear we've hijacked this thread /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
(which I have in my reminders, as its not on the index for me..)
 
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