Just recieved my Swedish equivalent of SSR.

[BurnitBlue]

Got my Swedish registration certificate yesterday. What a relief, I was getting really worried that I would end up with a stateless catamaran I bought last year. Not elegible for British SSR and with ETIAS and the the other one it is impossible to use a care-of address because the in-out tracking will expose any fudge to the rules. Blue book was too expensive along with Survey in Greece, Boat history, Etc. So I tried Swedish. Same deal for Blue book survey etc. Joined the Swedish Cruising Association to get an equivalent to SSR from them. Success it was expensive at £100 but cheaper than their Blue Book.

Stiff Yellow paper in a clear plastic wallet. Higher price due to inflation. What inflation? They must have a stack of blank forms and already own a typewriter. Perhaps it was the slight increase in postage. Anyway, still glad to have it. Gothenborg boat show on February 2nd to arrange third party insurance with Greek translation.

Two and half weeks to apply and get the registration despite the Christmas and New year holiday break. Excellent service, open to anyone who are having difficulties per Brexit. Aplicants OK from anywhere but NOT from any Caribbean Island. Excuse on their web page is unreliable postage system and some other reason I could not understand.

 

[rogerthebodger]

Do you have any connection wit Sweden and does the registration expire after 5 years so must be renewed

 

[Wansworth]

is it like Polish registration?

 

[BurnitBlue]

Do you have any connection wit Sweden and does the registration expire after 5 years so must be renewed

I have residence in Sweden, but it OK for anyone in the EU to get one. Refueler on here is from Latvia. The Swedish Ssociation webside gives all details. If you have any questions you can email advice using info@SXK .se for a n abswer. The only restriction is you have to join the association and application form for International certificate must be in English, Danish, Norwegian or Finnish. Any other language you must use you own national association.

 

[rogerthebodger]

is it like Polish registration?

I don't think so as Polish id forever hence my renewal question.

A friend of mine in South Africa has Polish registration but must have his boat inspected in South Africa as he is currently in South Africa

 

[BurnitBlue]

is it like Polish registration?

No. Almost identical to British SSR. Ie it does not prove Title and application must be made personally by owner or captain of the vessel. No Agents accepted.. I do not know anything about Polish Registration

 

[BurnitBlue]

Questions are best answered by the Swedish Cruising Association at info@SXK.se. elegibulity is according to EU rules details on SXK website. The application form can be downloaded for printing application by snail mail to their address along with the Bill of Sale. Payment by usual electronic procedure.

Oh the certificate is valid for only two years. Renewel is by application in good time to get the reduced fee.

Good luck.

 

[BabaYaga]

Questions are best answered by the Swedish Cruising Association

I would strongly support that advice.
Being Swedish and a member of this association for decades it is still not easy to understand, from the information available on their website, how 1) the international certificate, 2) registration of boat in the associations registry and 3) the right of a non citizen/resident of Sweden to fly the Swedish flag on their boat, are linked together.
My belief is that the certificate and the registration a two separate things and that the right to fly the flag as above follows from neither, but I may well be wrong.

 

[Neil_Y]

Got my Swedish registration certificate yesterday. What a relief, I was getting really worried that I would end up with a stateless catamaran I bought last year. Not elegible for British SSR and with ETIAS and the the other one it is impossible to use a care-of address because the in-out tracking will expose any fudge to the rules. Blue book was too expensive along with Survey in Greece, Boat history, Etc. So I tried Swedish. Same deal for Blue book survey etc. Joined the Swedish Cruising Association to get an equivalent to SSR from them. Success it was expensive at £100 but cheaper than their Blue Book.

Stiff Yellow paper in a clear plastic wallet. Higher price due to inflation. What inflation? They must have a stack of blank forms and already own a typewriter. Perhaps it was the slight increase in postage. Anyway, still glad to have it. Gothenborg boat show on February 2nd to arrange third party insurance with Greek translation.

Two and half weeks to apply and get the registration despite the Christmas and New year holiday break. Excellent service, open to anyone who are having difficulties per Brexit. Aplicants OK from anywhere but NOT from any Caribbean Island. Excuse on their web page is unreliable postage system and some other reason I could not understand.

Interesting, thanks for the information, I'm in the process of applying for residency despite the fact I was a legal resident before Brexit, Brexit srewed up the whole process of becoming a Swedish citizen, may case has been on going for over 2 years. However I am interested in being able to fly the Swedish ensign on my new yacht which is based near Arkösund, or right now parked in the snow in the garden!

 

[BurnitBlue]

I would strongly support that advice.
Being Swedish and a member of this association for decades it is still not easy to understand, from the information available on their website, how 1) the international certificate, 2) registration of boat in the associations registry and 3) the right of a non citizen/resident of Sweden to fly the Swedish flag on their boat, are linked together.
My belief is that the certificate and the registration a two separate things and that the right to fly the flag as above follows from neither, but I may well be wrong.

I have read and re-read the details about the right to fly/wear the Swedish flag. My conclusion which is probably wrong is that like Britain there is a distinction between the maritime ensign (red with national flag in one corner) and the national flag which is the Union Jack which is verboten on a boat. In Sweden there is the maritime ensign which is essentially the same as the national flag but with a swallow tail. One big difference is that anyone with a connection to Sweden can Fly/wear the Swedish flag in Sweden because there is no law to forbid or punish anyone, but specific rules apply to their maritime ensign. However, they warn that in other countries fines and punishment can be made for incorrect choice.

My take is that it is OK for a UK citizen to fly/wear the maritime ensign of UK but not the national flag, while Sweden has the opposite and OK to fly/wear the national flag but not the maritime ensign.

Apologies for not knowing Fly/Wear or Flag/Ensign usage.puzzled as ever.

 

[BurnitBlue]

Interesting, thanks for the information, I'm in the process of applying for residency despite the fact I was a legal resident before Brexit, Brexit srewed up the whole process of becoming a Swedish citizen, may case has been on going for over 2 years. However I am interested in being able to fly the Swedish ensign on my new yacht which is based near Arkösund, or right now parked in the snow in the garden!

You can Fly/wear the Swedish flag in Sweden. An applicant for residency is treated as a resident until it is denied. My permanent residency took four month.
The delay was because the rule is five years of contiguous living inside Sweden. My boat is in Greece and I regularly spent "over" three month aboard her. Lock down and Covid travel restrictions saved my bacon but it was touch and go. The rule for an applicant is no more than 3 week away from Sweden without a good excuse. For this reason I will not apply for citizenship because the same rule applies for the "upgrade". Examination of bank statements and debit card history will highlight your movements. Be careful.

 

[BabaYaga]

My conclusion which is probably wrong is that like Britain there is a distinction between the maritime ensign (red with national flag in one corner) and the national flag which is the Union Jack which is verboten on a boat. In Sweden there is the maritime ensign which is essentially the same as the national flag but with a swallow tail. One big difference is that anyone with a connection to Sweden can Fly/wear the Swedish flag in Sweden because there is no law to forbid or punish anyone, but specific rules apply to their maritime ensign. However, they warn that in other countries fines and punishment can be made for incorrect choice.

My take is that it is OK for a UK citizen to fly/wear the maritime ensign of UK but not the national flag, while Sweden has the opposite and OK to fly/wear the national flag but not the maritime ensign.

Not quite correct, I'm afraid. The naval or maritime ensign (three tongues, never two, unlike Denmark´s) is only ever used by the military and the royals. So the merchant fleet and yachts fly a straight cut flag, which is identical to the civil flag used on land. So in practice, we have no equivalent of the red (or blue) ensigns of the UK.
You are right though, that there is no law against flying the wrong flag in Swedish waters.
How other jurisdictions look at the right of non citizens/non residents here to fly the Swedish flag on their boats is, I believe, very much an open question.