suse
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and have posted some details there - so if you want a cheery crewmember, check it out. Please, no Blighs.
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Just found the Crew Wanted and Available Forum
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tcm
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Bligh
much malighned person over the years. Went on Cook's ships and copied many of his ideas to keep up crew morale, and stats show he doled out a tenth of the punichmnts of contemporary captains. Have a read of The Bounty, recentish paperback by er some nice lady, carol something. It documents how the press and defence counsel whipped up the story of bligh being awful git in order to win reprieve for some of the mutineers, which worked. The real reason for the mutiny was overlong 10month stay in tahiti during which some crew being romantically attached to locals, alsoif you've been, much nicer place than portsmouth it has to be said...
much malighned person over the years. Went on Cook's ships and copied many of his ideas to keep up crew morale, and stats show he doled out a tenth of the punichmnts of contemporary captains. Have a read of The Bounty, recentish paperback by er some nice lady, carol something. It documents how the press and defence counsel whipped up the story of bligh being awful git in order to win reprieve for some of the mutineers, which worked. The real reason for the mutiny was overlong 10month stay in tahiti during which some crew being romantically attached to locals, alsoif you've been, much nicer place than portsmouth it has to be said...
snowleopard
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Re: Bligh
Didn't he have a couple of other mutinies under his command?
There is a nice story that he was surveying the shores of the Helford river and was grabbed by some locals who thought he was a French spy. The place thereafter became known as Frenchman's Creek.
Didn't he have a couple of other mutinies under his command?
There is a nice story that he was surveying the shores of the Helford river and was grabbed by some locals who thought he was a French spy. The place thereafter became known as Frenchman's Creek.
duncanmack
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Re: Bligh
There is a fascinating book written from the journal kept by one of the crew. He was a Scot, I think by the name of Morrison (hazy there). I read it some years ago but not sure if I've still got it. I'll have a look.
He paints a better picture of Bligh but didn't have too much good to say about Christian.
There is a fascinating book written from the journal kept by one of the crew. He was a Scot, I think by the name of Morrison (hazy there). I read it some years ago but not sure if I've still got it. I'll have a look.
He paints a better picture of Bligh but didn't have too much good to say about Christian.
duncanmack
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Re: Bligh
Can't find it, but link here
He was the Boatswain's Mate, and was eventually aquitted of being a mutineer.
Fascinating read of what happened to the mutineers.
Can't find it, but link here
He was the Boatswain's Mate, and was eventually aquitted of being a mutineer.
Fascinating read of what happened to the mutineers.
zzjfawce
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Re: Bligh
Some of the mutineers descendants, including Christian's, are still alive and living in the Pitcairn islands, deep in South Pacific. Big stink there a year or so ago when allegations raised that these same descendants were party to institutionalised sexual abuse of minors. Because still under jurisdiction of UK, Manchester police sent detectives to investigate, charges brought, and I believe cases subsequently tried in NZ courts but not sure of outcome. Bligh's last posting was as governor of NSW and he had to make the best of a difficult situation dealing with an early instance of police corruption.
Some of the mutineers descendants, including Christian's, are still alive and living in the Pitcairn islands, deep in South Pacific. Big stink there a year or so ago when allegations raised that these same descendants were party to institutionalised sexual abuse of minors. Because still under jurisdiction of UK, Manchester police sent detectives to investigate, charges brought, and I believe cases subsequently tried in NZ courts but not sure of outcome. Bligh's last posting was as governor of NSW and he had to make the best of a difficult situation dealing with an early instance of police corruption.
tcm
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Re: Bligh
Not really, the sit-in mutiny from several ships was more widespread and in fact bligh was part of delegations AFAIK. The other sort-of mutiny when he was govenor of australia was again not of his making altho slung at him by defence in Court later. Perhaps not a born leader, tho definitely not a born git.
Not really, the sit-in mutiny from several ships was more widespread and in fact bligh was part of delegations AFAIK. The other sort-of mutiny when he was govenor of australia was again not of his making altho slung at him by defence in Court later. Perhaps not a born leader, tho definitely not a born git.
zzjfawce
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Re: Bligh
Not that any of this has anything to do with finding boats to crew on. Is that what you call thread drift and what trick cyclists (psychiatrists) call tangential thinking?
You have probably already been told about this but if you join the Cruising Association, they have a well worked out crewing service where potential crew and skippers get to meet up. I haven't been along to it, living on the opposite side of the planet now, but sounds like it should work (and similar to how bomber crews were assembled in WWII, more drift)
Not that any of this has anything to do with finding boats to crew on. Is that what you call thread drift and what trick cyclists (psychiatrists) call tangential thinking?
You have probably already been told about this but if you join the Cruising Association, they have a well worked out crewing service where potential crew and skippers get to meet up. I haven't been along to it, living on the opposite side of the planet now, but sounds like it should work (and similar to how bomber crews were assembled in WWII, more drift)
tcm
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Re: Bligh
ah but suzywassername is always drifting threads and she took a sideswipe at Bligh in her origial post even tho he is a proven Fab Sailor and navigator of the highest order.
the meeting up with crew beforehand wd be good, tho can work against those far outside london I suppose. I bet bombr crews hardly ever had people who put up post saying ooh if anyone has a spare spot in lancaster please count me in. Or did they?
ah but suzywassername is always drifting threads and she took a sideswipe at Bligh in her origial post even tho he is a proven Fab Sailor and navigator of the highest order.
the meeting up with crew beforehand wd be good, tho can work against those far outside london I suppose. I bet bombr crews hardly ever had people who put up post saying ooh if anyone has a spare spot in lancaster please count me in. Or did they?
suse
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Re: Bligh
Bl**ding 'ell - jus put a ninnercent littel remark - n lookit the furoaree.
Oh, dear, pedants all - yes, I do know Bligh was a fantastic navigator, much maligned by films and folk memory, stern but fair, Fletcher Christian led by his ****k, and all that. It was just a portmanteau word, honest, no nasturtiums cast on the pore ole soul - to weed out the control freke skippers - NONE of whom frequent any of these forums, of course ...
Do I drift threads, then? Never noticed. But while I'm here, perhaps I can just mention my exciting morning down at the village hall, making tea, gossiping, getting the set ready for playweek next week. You get my drift? Please feel free to comment on this paragraph - for example, what you're doing this
Bl**ding 'ell - jus put a ninnercent littel remark - n lookit the furoaree.
Oh, dear, pedants all - yes, I do know Bligh was a fantastic navigator, much maligned by films and folk memory, stern but fair, Fletcher Christian led by his ****k, and all that. It was just a portmanteau word, honest, no nasturtiums cast on the pore ole soul - to weed out the control freke skippers - NONE of whom frequent any of these forums, of course ...
Do I drift threads, then? Never noticed. But while I'm here, perhaps I can just mention my exciting morning down at the village hall, making tea, gossiping, getting the set ready for playweek next week. You get my drift? Please feel free to comment on this paragraph - for example, what you're doing this
bobnewbury
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Talking of Portsmouth...
A while ago some self-serving reptile of a politician said that for a soldier being in Iraq was not much different to being in Aldershot. To which a squaddie replied: "We're surrounded by prostitutes and drug addicts and people keep trying to kill us. That's not Aldershot, it's Portsmouth".
A while ago some self-serving reptile of a politician said that for a soldier being in Iraq was not much different to being in Aldershot. To which a squaddie replied: "We're surrounded by prostitutes and drug addicts and people keep trying to kill us. That's not Aldershot, it's Portsmouth".
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Re: Bligh ...... down to nitty gritty ....
Bligh was "not of High born stock" ..... he worked his way up from the Focsle ...... That irked many of his contemporaies and when Bounty incident came along - excellent opportunity to get rid of the "upstart". Only problem was - he was a good seaman ......
Bligh was "not of High born stock" ..... he worked his way up from the Focsle ...... That irked many of his contemporaies and when Bounty incident came along - excellent opportunity to get rid of the "upstart". Only problem was - he was a good seaman ......
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Well done for putting up on Crewing ....
Forget ol 'Bligh etc. ......
Hope crewing comes up ...
Forget ol 'Bligh etc. ......
Hope crewing comes up ...