AIDY
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Is the current weather an effect of the jet stream ?
Jet Stream
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snowleopard
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Yes. It's running a long way further south than usual at this time of year and bringing all the depressions with it.
AIDY
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am i right in that it's predicted to move further south in the future. bringing us rubbish weather
boatmike
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Not strictly true. The jet stream is not fully understood and the factors that move it north or south are very complex. The weather we are currently getting is not in fact unusual for the UK at all, it's just that the meteorologists thought it was going to go north this year and give us a "barbeque summer". Wrong again it seems!
ChrisE
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Earlier on this year I got the impression the jet stream was in the right place to give us a good summer having been to far North last year.It would seem that the met men are not able to even be able to identify it's position accurately.How far wrong can you be & still get paid?
Chris_Robb
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Aidy, where did you get to on your cruise? We got down to Duannanez but the weather was so ****, we cruised back up and along the NW brittany coast. We got back yesterday.
AIDY
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PM sent.
jhr
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Eeek! There's a kink to the South in the Jet Stream that looks as if it's been put there purely and simply to accommodate the UK and ensure rubbish weather.
I blame Gordon Brown.
Lakesailor
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We always noticed that the visitors to the Lakes tended to get worse weather in the school holiday periods. Best weather here is, and has been for years in May/June and September/October.
In the past couple of years we've been having blistering hot and sunny days as early as February and March (breakfast in the garden, etc)
In the past couple of years we've been having blistering hot and sunny days as early as February and March (breakfast in the garden, etc)
Magic Number
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I’m with lakesailor, the best weather here in Mayo is May/June and Sept/Oct, my logbooks going back some 20+ years back this up. Of course we get ‘Atlantic’ weather. Those of you who live in SE Engerland get some ‘continental’ weather and thus expect some better weather. But remember you live on an island!
A simpler definition and one that has always worked for me is:
Summer = long days
Winter = short days
A simpler definition and one that has always worked for me is:
Summer = long days
Winter = short days
photodog
Lord High Commander of Upper Broughton and Gunthor
El Nino/ La Nina
I think that the initial BBQ Summer forecast was based on the fact that the ENSO conditions were moving from a La Nina to a El Nino conditons... which should in theory... produce more stable conditions in the Jet Stream in the North Atlantic.... In fact we had been experiencing a particularly lengthy La Nina condition... which co-incided almost 100% which the two previous poor summers.... The NOAA were predicting in April that we would have full El Nino conditions by late summer... and it would appear the we entered a El Nino in June....
Now, lots of research indicates that the improvement in the NAO (North Atlantic Occilation... Jet Stream) (From the UK's Perspective BTW) can be considerably delayed from the change to El Nino (as late as a year).... and that the effect is not always predictable....
It could be that conditons will be better for the winter... But it does look like the change came too late for the UK this summer.. If in fact El Nino has any impact on the UK weather at all....
BTW there is a growing body of people who say that the effect on the NAO is now being negated or changed by Climate Change......
I think that the initial BBQ Summer forecast was based on the fact that the ENSO conditions were moving from a La Nina to a El Nino conditons... which should in theory... produce more stable conditions in the Jet Stream in the North Atlantic.... In fact we had been experiencing a particularly lengthy La Nina condition... which co-incided almost 100% which the two previous poor summers.... The NOAA were predicting in April that we would have full El Nino conditions by late summer... and it would appear the we entered a El Nino in June....
Now, lots of research indicates that the improvement in the NAO (North Atlantic Occilation... Jet Stream) (From the UK's Perspective BTW) can be considerably delayed from the change to El Nino (as late as a year).... and that the effect is not always predictable....
It could be that conditons will be better for the winter... But it does look like the change came too late for the UK this summer.. If in fact El Nino has any impact on the UK weather at all....
BTW there is a growing body of people who say that the effect on the NAO is now being negated or changed by Climate Change......
Bilgediver
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NO........ It wiggles around as it circles the globe...Just look at it on the web and se what it has done over British Columbia....Big wiggle to far north. This is giving temperatures in the 35C range in the mountains..Rain????? what is rain. No smoking in them there hills and no bar B ques...the forests are tinder dry!
Maybe the wiggle over BC will waggle aroung to the UK.
simonjk
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Take a look at the Weather School Musing I am about to post....and I;kk be on News 24 talking about the BBQ forecast at 7.10pm.
Simon
Simon
Cornishman
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What do you think about this from the BBC weather site, Simon?
"Monday 10 August 2009 to Sunday 23 August 2009
Settling down
Pressure continues to rise and a much more settled spell of weather is forecast."
"Monday 10 August 2009 to Sunday 23 August 2009
Settling down
Pressure continues to rise and a much more settled spell of weather is forecast."
AngusMcDoon
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