Nautical
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Anyone know what lubricant you need to add to jet A1 one for use in piston engines ?..... US military use it in all there ground support vehicles but can't find what the additive is.
Jet A1............
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sarabande
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generic answer here. If you need specifics, I can't contact old HQ till Monday.
http://www.answers.com/topic/jet-fuel?cat=technology
http://www.answers.com/topic/jet-fuel?cat=technology
Neddie_Seagoon
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2 - 5% Veg oil or bio-diesel seems to be the concensus
oceanfroggie
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Assume you mean Diesel piston engines as JET A1 is almost the same as kero.
Piers
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Wasn't Jet A1 an aviation fuel, and very flammable at that?
geardownthreegreens
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Thats what i thought, and very volatile.
Was once told that if you could get it, it would be the equivalent to 5star petrol.
Was once told that if you could get it, it would be the equivalent to 5star petrol.
Nautical
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I think you mean Avgas for piston engined aircraft, Jet A1 is for turbine engines and as mentioned much the same as kerosene. There is a derivative of Jet A1 for use in very cold temperatures which is quite volatile.
from wikipedia.....
"Jet fuel is very similar to diesel fuel, and a few aircraft engine manufacturers, most notably Thielert, have begun offering piston engines which run on jet fuel. The technology promises to be a way to provide light, powerful, and environmentally-friendly engines for the general aviation market while simplifying airport logistics and phasing out leaded avgas.
Jet fuel is often used in ground support vehicles at airports, instead of diesel. The United States military makes heavy use of JP-8, for instance. However, jet fuel tends to have poor lubricating ability in comparison to diesel, thereby increasing wear on fuel pumps and other related engine parts. Civilian vehicles tend to disallow its use, or require that an additive be mixed with the jet fuel in order to restore its lubricity".
from wikipedia.....
"Jet fuel is very similar to diesel fuel, and a few aircraft engine manufacturers, most notably Thielert, have begun offering piston engines which run on jet fuel. The technology promises to be a way to provide light, powerful, and environmentally-friendly engines for the general aviation market while simplifying airport logistics and phasing out leaded avgas.
Jet fuel is often used in ground support vehicles at airports, instead of diesel. The United States military makes heavy use of JP-8, for instance. However, jet fuel tends to have poor lubricating ability in comparison to diesel, thereby increasing wear on fuel pumps and other related engine parts. Civilian vehicles tend to disallow its use, or require that an additive be mixed with the jet fuel in order to restore its lubricity".
codprawn
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Yes cooking oil at anything up to 20% - you only need 5% though.
Jet fuel being very dangerous is such a common misconception. In the die Hard film Bruce Willis lights some on a snowy runway with his zippo - really made me laugh. It's Kero or Parrafin - try lighting that on a cold day!!!
Jet fuel being very dangerous is such a common misconception. In the die Hard film Bruce Willis lights some on a snowy runway with his zippo - really made me laugh. It's Kero or Parrafin - try lighting that on a cold day!!!
Piers
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It was when I started commercial flying in 1970 with BOAC (I'm so... old!) and some airlines were still using JP1 (or was it JP4?), which was an extremely flammable liquid. Most airlines had stopped using it, but some hadn't since it was significantly less expensive.
Freebee
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The americans dont use an additive they put the Jet A1 or avtur which is kerosene based fuel straight in the vehicle tank, its what they call single fuel concept. it allows them to have only one fuel available on the battelfield. I have run aircooled Lombardini this way with only a slight fall off in power on jetA1 and still covered by the manufacturs warranty.
realslimshady
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Yes cooking oil at anything up to 20% - you only need 5% though.
Jet fuel being very dangerous is such a common misconception. In the die Hard film Bruce Willis lights some on a snowy runway with his zippo - really made me laugh. It's Kero or Parrafin - try lighting that on a cold day!!!
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this after tearing apart the main fuel feed line by hand...
my old Astra used to run quite happily on Avtur...occasional addition of pump fuel or injector cleaner if it started getting reluctant..
Yes cooking oil at anything up to 20% - you only need 5% though.
Jet fuel being very dangerous is such a common misconception. In the die Hard film Bruce Willis lights some on a snowy runway with his zippo - really made me laugh. It's Kero or Parrafin - try lighting that on a cold day!!!
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this after tearing apart the main fuel feed line by hand...
my old Astra used to run quite happily on Avtur...occasional addition of pump fuel or injector cleaner if it started getting reluctant..
