Jobs_a_ good_ un
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I also met jeremy clarkson at the boat show but he only said hello am I bored ?
jeremy clarkson at boat show
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oldgit
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It is a boat show innit.
Yup saw him there as well in cafe opposite Sealine stand.He seemed happy enough and was accompanied by his daughters.Apparently shortly afterwards wrote and article complaining about entry price and lack of entertainment at venue for folks not interested in boats.Has he ever spent a day out at a F1 meeting or praaps one of them Alton Towers type places.My main grouse at the show was some hooray henry who allowed his totally bored and out of control brats to run riot over the boat I was looking at.Gave up and walked off in the end.
Yup saw him there as well in cafe opposite Sealine stand.He seemed happy enough and was accompanied by his daughters.Apparently shortly afterwards wrote and article complaining about entry price and lack of entertainment at venue for folks not interested in boats.Has he ever spent a day out at a F1 meeting or praaps one of them Alton Towers type places.My main grouse at the show was some hooray henry who allowed his totally bored and out of control brats to run riot over the boat I was looking at.Gave up and walked off in the end.
NorthernWave
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Re: It is a boat show innit.
I met him when I was on Top Gear a few years back. Very Funny guy.
Chris
I met him when I was on Top Gear a few years back. Very Funny guy.
Chris
powerskipper
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Re: It is a boat show innit.
OK spill the beens
why where you on Top Gear????????
OK spill the beens
why where you on Top Gear????????
oldgit
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Re: It is a car show innit.
Funny?,as in most boys of his age have moved on from adolescence.Still his attitude to speed camaras will prob change when some "Maxpowermoron" hurts one of his children.
Funny?,as in most boys of his age have moved on from adolescence.Still his attitude to speed camaras will prob change when some "Maxpowermoron" hurts one of his children.
Lakesailor
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Re: It is a car show innit.
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Funny?,as in most boys of his age have moved on from adolescence.Still his attitude to speed camaras will prob change when some "Maxpowermoron" hurts one of his children.
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Ah But, (don't want to start an off-topic here) speed cameras are to do with money, not speeding.
Ask this insurance companies. They put your premium up by about £100 for a new speeding ticket. Then maybe £60 the year after when it's a year old and then maybe £40 the next year.
Even if you're on max no-claims that's about £60 extra for what? You've proved you're a safe driver by not having any claims for 7 years or more, so why penalise you for passing a camera at a few mph above the (probably) temporary 50mph limit.
Multiply that £60 by the number of people who get done per day and you have a massive extra income for the insurance companies.
It's an EC fact, insurance companies are bastards.
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Funny?,as in most boys of his age have moved on from adolescence.Still his attitude to speed camaras will prob change when some "Maxpowermoron" hurts one of his children.
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Ah But, (don't want to start an off-topic here) speed cameras are to do with money, not speeding.
Ask this insurance companies. They put your premium up by about £100 for a new speeding ticket. Then maybe £60 the year after when it's a year old and then maybe £40 the next year.
Even if you're on max no-claims that's about £60 extra for what? You've proved you're a safe driver by not having any claims for 7 years or more, so why penalise you for passing a camera at a few mph above the (probably) temporary 50mph limit.
Multiply that £60 by the number of people who get done per day and you have a massive extra income for the insurance companies.
It's an EC fact, insurance companies are bastards.
ari
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Re: It is a boat show innit.
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.My main grouse at the show was some hooray henry who allowed his totally bored and out of control brats to run riot over the boat I was looking at.Gave up and walked off in the end.
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It is absolutely staggering the way some people let their kids behave aboard boats at a boatshow.
I wonder whether, were they at a motorshow and allowed onto the Bentley stand for example, they would allow their children to jump on the seats or sit at the wheel swinging on it and pushing every button in sight.
Their attitude seems to be that since they've paid to get in they're entitled to treat the boats how-ever they see fit. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
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.My main grouse at the show was some hooray henry who allowed his totally bored and out of control brats to run riot over the boat I was looking at.Gave up and walked off in the end.
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It is absolutely staggering the way some people let their kids behave aboard boats at a boatshow.
I wonder whether, were they at a motorshow and allowed onto the Bentley stand for example, they would allow their children to jump on the seats or sit at the wheel swinging on it and pushing every button in sight.
Their attitude seems to be that since they've paid to get in they're entitled to treat the boats how-ever they see fit. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
ari
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Re: It is a car show innit.
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Funny?,as in most boys of his age have moved on from adolescence.Still his attitude to speed camaras will prob change when some "Maxpowermoron" hurts one of his children.
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Oh dear, another one fallen for the government speed camera spin.
Question for you, which is safer, a or b?
a. Brand new Porsche 911, careful observant highly trained driver in his thirties, clear dry road, 7am, Sunday, dual carriageway, no traffic, 70mph limit, doing 85mph.
b. 85 year old man, no training since passed test, 15 year old Metro only just scraped past its MOT 11 months ago, pouring with rain, heavy traffic, 75mph.
Same road. Camera will penalise one, not the other. Guess which?
And if that doesn't make it clear enough, since cameras were introduced cars have got steadily safer, airbags, ABS etc now pretty much standard equipment. Guess how much deaths and serious injuries have been reduced by since the inception of "safety" cameras?
None.
There is way more to road safety than pure speed, way way more.
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Funny?,as in most boys of his age have moved on from adolescence.Still his attitude to speed camaras will prob change when some "Maxpowermoron" hurts one of his children.
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Oh dear, another one fallen for the government speed camera spin.
Question for you, which is safer, a or b?
a. Brand new Porsche 911, careful observant highly trained driver in his thirties, clear dry road, 7am, Sunday, dual carriageway, no traffic, 70mph limit, doing 85mph.
b. 85 year old man, no training since passed test, 15 year old Metro only just scraped past its MOT 11 months ago, pouring with rain, heavy traffic, 75mph.
Same road. Camera will penalise one, not the other. Guess which?
And if that doesn't make it clear enough, since cameras were introduced cars have got steadily safer, airbags, ABS etc now pretty much standard equipment. Guess how much deaths and serious injuries have been reduced by since the inception of "safety" cameras?
None.
There is way more to road safety than pure speed, way way more.
Nautical
Active member
Does he own a boat or thinking of one or was he doing PR stuff.
Only ask as he has bought some ex light house property here on the Isle of Man and with his dosh I could lighten him of some for my old boat so he could sail past and wave to his kiddies. Mind you it does'nt do wheelies or dounuts so probably of no interest.
Only ask as he has bought some ex light house property here on the Isle of Man and with his dosh I could lighten him of some for my old boat so he could sail past and wave to his kiddies. Mind you it does'nt do wheelies or dounuts so probably of no interest.
oldgit
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Only a few mph over the limit ?
Care to explain why the porker owner "needs to do 85 mph" just curious.Mission of life or death praaps.The highway code gives in big simple easy to read print the speed limits in the UK which you agree to bide by when you take the test. YES?NO?
Cars may have got much safer but doubt that the 98% water plus a few chemicals behind the wheel has /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.Quessing here,but the reaction times of drivers have not improved one millisecond since the speed limit was 5mph and you only saw one car a day.
A man in hurry will take risks that others would not bother with..
ITs so simple no speedy no finey.
All speeding fines are totally and completely voluntary contributions to the exchequer.Surely folks are not so totally incapable of organising their day that exceeding the statutory limit is unavoidable.
Driving is a privilege not a right and sticking to the limits protects others at the very least.
Care to explain why the porker owner "needs to do 85 mph" just curious.Mission of life or death praaps.The highway code gives in big simple easy to read print the speed limits in the UK which you agree to bide by when you take the test. YES?NO?
Cars may have got much safer but doubt that the 98% water plus a few chemicals behind the wheel has /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.Quessing here,but the reaction times of drivers have not improved one millisecond since the speed limit was 5mph and you only saw one car a day.
A man in hurry will take risks that others would not bother with..
ITs so simple no speedy no finey.
All speeding fines are totally and completely voluntary contributions to the exchequer.Surely folks are not so totally incapable of organising their day that exceeding the statutory limit is unavoidable.
Driving is a privilege not a right and sticking to the limits protects others at the very least.
ari
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Re: Only a few mph over the limit ?
If you wish to be that simplistic about it, why not advocate a blanket nationwide 20mph speed limit? You'd knock about 90% off the death toll then.
Not quite that simple is it?
Fact is, the right driver in the right conditions in the right car can exeed the speed limit in perfect safety. Trained police traffic division drivers are a prime example.
Frankly I'd rather be sat next to the chap with the Porsche in the example above rather than the pensioner with the aged Metro in the rain.
You need to decide whether you want safer drivers or more legal drivers. Personally I favour the former. The two are not necessarily the same thing. A trained traffic police officer can tell the difference. Your speed camera cannot.
Thats why JC and other people able to understand that there is more to road safety than the number on the speedometer are against speed cameras, especially in areas where they are pure revenue generators, nothing more.
If you wish to be that simplistic about it, why not advocate a blanket nationwide 20mph speed limit? You'd knock about 90% off the death toll then.
Not quite that simple is it?
Fact is, the right driver in the right conditions in the right car can exeed the speed limit in perfect safety. Trained police traffic division drivers are a prime example.
Frankly I'd rather be sat next to the chap with the Porsche in the example above rather than the pensioner with the aged Metro in the rain.
You need to decide whether you want safer drivers or more legal drivers. Personally I favour the former. The two are not necessarily the same thing. A trained traffic police officer can tell the difference. Your speed camera cannot.
Thats why JC and other people able to understand that there is more to road safety than the number on the speedometer are against speed cameras, especially in areas where they are pure revenue generators, nothing more.
NorthernWave
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Re: Only a few mph over the limit ?
I was part of the ordience but got involved in the cool board section.
Chris
I was part of the ordience but got involved in the cool board section.
Chris
spannerman
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Re: Only a few mph over the limit ?
According to UK stats County Durham has only one Gatso and the death toll on the roads in C.D. is some 34% below average, so would indicate that speed cameras have very little to do with road safety and a lot to do with income for the treasury which doesn't seem to be reinvested in the public highways. As an ex 40k miles per year salesrep for 8 years I know that slow driving induces drowsiness and lack of attention, I agree with Ari if you are going to drive quickly you are going to be more alert as generally you intend to reach your destination intact, and usually have learnt what your chosen vehicle can and can't do.
Having witnessed several accidents caused by pensioners in the retirement area of East DevonI feel that people should have their licence revalidated at a certain age as reactions and eyesight often deteriorate with age and that includes all of us.
According to UK stats County Durham has only one Gatso and the death toll on the roads in C.D. is some 34% below average, so would indicate that speed cameras have very little to do with road safety and a lot to do with income for the treasury which doesn't seem to be reinvested in the public highways. As an ex 40k miles per year salesrep for 8 years I know that slow driving induces drowsiness and lack of attention, I agree with Ari if you are going to drive quickly you are going to be more alert as generally you intend to reach your destination intact, and usually have learnt what your chosen vehicle can and can't do.
Having witnessed several accidents caused by pensioners in the retirement area of East DevonI feel that people should have their licence revalidated at a certain age as reactions and eyesight often deteriorate with age and that includes all of us.
halcyon
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Re: Only a few mph over the limit ?
Should we ban young drivers for lack of experience? they after all have the higher accident rate.
Brian
Should we ban young drivers for lack of experience? they after all have the higher accident rate.
Brian
ari
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Re: Only a few mph over the limit ?
Err.. no, cos if you ban inexperienced drivers they will never get experience will they?
Maybe they should be restricted to a certain engine size or top speed in a bid to kerb the boyracer tendancies in the early years though (bit like 16 year olds can only ride 50cc bikes restricted to 30mph)
Also think there should be more "attitude" training. Just cos you can reverse around a corner and do a three point turn doesn't mean you are a suitable candidate to be let loose behind the wheel.
Also think there should be a quick basic retest every 5 years to weed out the people that simply cannot drive, but managed to scrape through their test 10, 15, 30 years ago. That would do way way more to improve road safety than any number of cameras, some people on the road genuinely have zero clue as to what they're doing or what is going on around them. Quite frightening.
Err.. no, cos if you ban inexperienced drivers they will never get experience will they?
Maybe they should be restricted to a certain engine size or top speed in a bid to kerb the boyracer tendancies in the early years though (bit like 16 year olds can only ride 50cc bikes restricted to 30mph)
Also think there should be more "attitude" training. Just cos you can reverse around a corner and do a three point turn doesn't mean you are a suitable candidate to be let loose behind the wheel.
Also think there should be a quick basic retest every 5 years to weed out the people that simply cannot drive, but managed to scrape through their test 10, 15, 30 years ago. That would do way way more to improve road safety than any number of cameras, some people on the road genuinely have zero clue as to what they're doing or what is going on around them. Quite frightening.
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Re: It is a car show innit.
Unless his children are playing in the roadworks on the M25 or the M42, this is unlikely.
dv.
Unless his children are playing in the roadworks on the M25 or the M42, this is unlikely.
dv.
Bergman
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Re: Only a few mph over the limit ?
Ah
I never thought of that
If you are tired you should driver faster so as to stay alert
What a good idea
Just a thought
But if speed isn't dangerous - why do highly trained professional racing drivers wear crash helmets?
Ah
I never thought of that
If you are tired you should driver faster so as to stay alert
What a good idea
Just a thought
But if speed isn't dangerous - why do highly trained professional racing drivers wear crash helmets?
NorthernWave
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Re: Only a few mph over the limit ?
bergman: to keep their ears warm.
bergman: to keep their ears warm.
spannerman
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Re: Only a few mph over the limit ?
I can't speak for others but it definitely works for me, lost count of the times I was stuck behind a caravan or tour bus on the way home after a day on the road on the A35 between Axminster and Dorchester in the old days before the dual carriage ways. Guaranteed to cure the worst insomnia, several times if I couldn't overtake I would stop and snooze, but if I could get past the offending vehicle and up to a decent cruising speed I was wide awake.
You should try it over here in Norway where all the roads are like the old A30, we don't have any motorways, solution, buy myself the fastest accelerating car I can afford (SAAB Aero) and suddenly tourists and pensioners are no longer a problem. The best slow driver is the one behind you I say.
Its not about speeding, its about being able to proceed at a decent rate of knots to get where you are going in a reasonable amount of time, without inconveniencing others or compromising safety. And the speed limits on the motorways are a joke they were introduced in the 60's when such vehicles as Hillman Minx's, Morris Minors and Ford Anglias with dire steering, brakes and suspension were the cars of choice. We have reinvented the wheel since then.
I can't speak for others but it definitely works for me, lost count of the times I was stuck behind a caravan or tour bus on the way home after a day on the road on the A35 between Axminster and Dorchester in the old days before the dual carriage ways. Guaranteed to cure the worst insomnia, several times if I couldn't overtake I would stop and snooze, but if I could get past the offending vehicle and up to a decent cruising speed I was wide awake.
You should try it over here in Norway where all the roads are like the old A30, we don't have any motorways, solution, buy myself the fastest accelerating car I can afford (SAAB Aero) and suddenly tourists and pensioners are no longer a problem. The best slow driver is the one behind you I say.
Its not about speeding, its about being able to proceed at a decent rate of knots to get where you are going in a reasonable amount of time, without inconveniencing others or compromising safety. And the speed limits on the motorways are a joke they were introduced in the 60's when such vehicles as Hillman Minx's, Morris Minors and Ford Anglias with dire steering, brakes and suspension were the cars of choice. We have reinvented the wheel since then.