James James Morrison Morrison Weatherby George Dupree

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James James
Morrison Morrison
Weatherby George Dupree
Took great
Care of his Mother,
Though he was only three.
James James Said to his Mother,
"Mother," he said, said he;
"You must never go down
to the end of the town,
if you don't go down with me."

A.A. Milne was I think one of the greatest poets ever, My English teacher didn't. I got the belt for writing about Peas and Honey in an exam question.

I particularly liked this one. The warning to a child about what can happen if you go of by yourself.

Which makes me wonder why, When someone asks for advice on a forum you usually get dire warnings of disaster if you were to try.
I asked for route advice on another forum once just to be told as a newbie it was far to dangerous and silly for some such as myself to attempt.
Not one actual answere .

Perhalps I'm a fool. Lucky to have survived so long. I enjoyed going of and exploring as a boy and still do.;)
 
You'll always get people giving you dire warnings - they're usually the people who haven't tried it.

Sometimes they are 'authority' and sometimes 'marina folk' who take great pride in their boats, talk a great game, but never go out in other than the most benign conditions. (They're very nice though, great to have a beer with.)

I think, in fairness, that it's difficult to assess how capable someone might be, so when giving advice people err on the side of caution. But I like it when people encourage you to do something you wouldn't otherwise dare to do - it's helped me in the past.
 
Is it, do you think, that there is a fine line between advice and information?

If, for example, I told you (as you sat in the marina here on Crete) that in normal winds there are strong gusts and downdraughts off the headland a few miles away, that is clearly information. If, on the other hand, I warned you to give the cape a 2-mile offing that would be advice. Yet in both cases I'm trying to help you avoid unexpected problems by passing on some local knowledge.

How do you suggest we pass on useful bits of knowledge and information that we have gathered through experience without coming across as a pompous ar$e?
 
Is it, do you think, that there is a fine line between advice and information? How do you suggest we pass on useful bits of knowledge and information that we have gathered through experience without coming across as a pompous ar$e?

It's not at all easy to find, each time, the right turn of phrase that imparts just what is intended and not that which isn't.

I've been bumbling about in boats for close on half a decade, and I've learned a few things along the way. And some of 'em I've forgot along the way, too. Each time I sail on a different boat with a different skipper, I learn something else.... sometimes something useful, sometimes something to be avoided.
 
Is it, do you think, that there is a fine line between advice and information?

If, for example, I told you (as you sat in the marina here on Crete) that in normal winds there are strong gusts and downdraughts off the headland a few miles away, that is clearly information. If, on the other hand, I warned you to give the cape a 2-mile offing that would be advice. Yet in both cases I'm trying to help you avoid unexpected problems by passing on some local knowledge.

How do you suggest we pass on useful bits of knowledge and information that we have gathered through experience without coming across as a pompous ar$e?

I think If I sitting in the marina in Crete intending to sail round the point in question I would find the local knowledge of both answers very use full and be quite happy with out concluding you were pompous.
You just gave me the information without suggesting I was foolish or lacked the experience to sail round the point.
 
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