James Brooke seems to have changed his mind on visitor numbers

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On the 1st April James Brooke wrote the following letter to Boating Business

From James Brooke, The Earls Court Boat Show

Dear Sir,

Since we announced that the Whyte and Mackay Earls Court Boat Show will be held in December 2007, there has been much debate within the industry.

There have been some questions around the rationale of holding a second boat show in London and we want to address the concerns raised.

Despite many London Boat Show tickets being given free to people this year, visitor numbers fell again. Visitation figures have declined 40% over 4 boat shows (from 210,000 in 2004 to 130,000 in 2007).

The Whyte & Mackay Earls Court Boat Show is a boat show that has been created in response to independent research showing a gap in the market coupled with an overwhelming demand. This Show has been created with the express intentions of delivering the core heartland of the boating community to exhibitors, as well as providing a warm welcome to those entering the boating world for the first time. It is of real commercial benefit to the industry to have a show that entices genuine boating enthusiasts with a high propensity to purchase.

Our visitor forecast for the 50th boat show at Earls Court is 220,000. We believe that this is a feasible target taking into account initial Excel figures at the 2004 show, the number of boat owners in the UK, the number of people involved in water based activities, the pre-Christmas timing, the iconic location and the overwhelming amount of interest and support we have received from the boating community.

Earls Court has invested many millions of pounds in recent years on upgrades and improvements to its facilities since the boat show left in 2003. Both visitors and exhibitors will benefit from these improvements which include an upgraded air-conditioning system, fashionable restaurants on-site and a new ceiling grid with rigging facilities.

Despite recent comments made public on behalf of the BMF and National Boat Shows in a clear attempt to discourage independent companies from exhibiting at the Whyte & Mackay Earls Court Boat Show, we remain supportive of the BMF and the work it does on behalf of its members. Since 15th January we have initiated several conversations with the BMF and continue to offer them our support. The most recent conversation included an offer to sponsor a BMF stand at Earls Court. We believe the two shows can complement each other and are willing to maintain an open dialogue with the BMF in order to work together to facilitate this. We have no doubt that the Excel show will find its place alongside the Whyte & Mackay Earls Court Boat Show and wish them every success in doing so.

In conclusion, the Whyte & Mackay Earls Court Boat Show will deliver revenue to the industry, and will allow exhibitors and visitors to freely exchange information. With forecast visitor numbers of 220,000 in 2007, the show is very much in the interests of the industry.

With best wishes,

James Brooke
Managing Director
Earls Court Boat Show

I see today he has changed his tune

Founder of the 2007 Earls Court Boat Show, James Brooke, has taken a Stalinesque approach to the low attendance figures: he's ignoring them! He told YM: 'Numbers don't mean anything to me, they are just a black and white thing. I haven't got a clue how many people came and I don't want to know.'

He maintains that shows have been judged by figures for too long and that statistics don't tell potential visitors anything. Instead he is collating exhibitors' and visitors' responses.

'What is importnat is to marry up the right sort of visitors with the exhibitors they want to see. That is what makes a successful show.' Next year's Earls Court Boat Show dates are already booked: Press Day is Friday 28 November and the show opens the following day on 29 November and runs until Saturday 7 December.

For the only sailing magazine analysis of the new show see Yachting Monthly's three-page special report in the January issue on sale 13 December.
Yachting Monthly, 10 December 2007


I wonder why???
 
I went to EC on the Wednesday ... you could have fired a cannon up through the aisles and not hit anybody.

I went to Excel last January on the Wednesday ... you could have fired a cannon up through the aisles and not hit anybody.

I'll go to Excel next month on the Wednesday ... I'll let you know!
 
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I went to EC on the Wednesday ... you could have fired a cannon up through the aisles and not hit anybody.

I went to Excel last January on the Wednesday ... you could have fired a cannon up through the aisles and not hit anybody.


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I was able to walk up and down the aisles of Earls Court with my tripod.....extended (1.78 metres).....held horizontally!!! And still not hit anyone....where's the fun in that? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I went to EC on the Wednesday ... you could have fired a cannon up through the aisles and not hit anybody.

I went to Excel last January on the Wednesday ... you could have fired a cannon up through the aisles and not hit anybody.



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They both sound like excellent shows to visit.
 
As someone that has seen "shows" from both sides I feel I just have to sit on the fence here /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

As an "customer" I want the show ground to myself, I want to walk onto a stand and be treated like royalty, when I want something to eat I don't want to queue for it.

But as an "exhibitor" I want the show ground packed out because at the prices the organisers charge us exhibitors I need the sales.

BTW as an exhibitor I find it takes 2 days to get the sales patter right, but by that time my backs gone along with my throat and the remaining days are just a hellish blurr.

Peter.
 
Without disclosing my source, but it is very close to the organisers of Excel, I have heard that the unofficial figure put on Earls Court is 20,000 - a far cry from 220,000.

On the first Saturday I went, I have heard there were assessed to be 750 visitors that day!

I can't see it happening next year. I would have thought Mr Brooke's company must have lost a large amount of money.
 
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Without disclosing my source, but it is very close to the organisers of Excel, I have heard that the unofficial figure put on Earls Court is 20,000 - a far cry from 220,000.

On the first Saturday I went, I have heard there were assessed to be 750 visitors that day!


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Well, sources close to Excel would say that; wouldn't they?

FYI: "the gate" at EC on the first Saturday was 950.
 
'sources close to Excel' do have a bit of an interest in making sure that EC does not happen next year - I would treat any 'unofficial' attendance figures put out from this source with a pinch of salt if not a whole salt mines worth.
 
We had an excellent show, not quite as many people through the door but at least they were serious boaty types and not hoards of bussed in school children to steal expensive promo materials. In the end we got rid of 3000 publications versus the 6000 we get rid of at Excel, so not bad at all for the 1st year at a new venue. The general feeling amongst people exhibiting was that they were happy as the quality of the customer combined with pre-christmas spending made it a good show. It is not all about how many people come through the show door at the end of the day, it is the quality. I wonder what Excel will be like?
 
The point i was raising was not about the merit of either show - but how quickly James changed his mind on the importance of visitor numbers - It is alright for the likes of Richard Shead who will get paid this month whatever but I know of a couple of small marine businesses taken in by james pr and marketing spin who did no business and are now out of pocket with the costs of staff, accommodation etc.

750 or 950 on Saturday or 10,000 or 20,000 for the whole show I think James has conned some of the small guys (he'll be alright though with the White and MacKay cash in the coffers)
 
Dont drag me into it! I may not own IPC but I still have to keep an eye on budgets like any business. As with any exhibtion we still have the same problems, stand space, staff, accomodation etc.
 
Oldsail3r,

I think conned may be a bit harsh.
Anyone in there right mind would understand the risks involved in attendind a new show, also they would take any guessed figures with a huge pinch of salt.
No one had any idea how many people would come, your better off sticking a wet finger in the air.

I do agree numbers don't mean a whole hill of beans, its down to the number who spend money.

On the 6 day's I spent working at the show I did not speak to one person who was a tyre kicker, that makes a big big change.
I can spend a whole day talking to people at SIBS or LIBS that have no boat, never owned a boat and have no intention of owning a boat.
Like all good salesman/person you take the time with these people just incase.
I would much rather have a show with low numbers visiting but a high number spending and am sure most will say the same.

IMHO what ever money a company made at the show is money they were unlikely to make had they not have been there.
Yes you do have to take into account accom, stand costs etc but it is the same for any show.

I hope this one keeps going, it made a real nice change.
Things like event organisers who when they said they would do something it happend.
One guy I know arrived to find no carpet on his stand and lights in the wrong place, all fixed in less than 20mins!
That how exhibitors should be treated not like some means to a pay check. Some people seem to forget that if there is no exhibitors there is no show!

All IMHO of course.
 
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Dont drag me into it! I may not own IPC but I still have to keep an eye on budgets like any business. As with any exhibtion we still have the same problems, stand space, staff, accomodation etc.

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They must think we have an easy life /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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