Jabsco Problem

emandvee44

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We have just had the boat ashore for the Annual scrub, renew anodes, clean and grease propeller, anti-foul propeller, same for bow thruster (Velox Plus)
Back in the marina and the forward heads refused to pump. By that I mean the pump handle could be moved up and down very easily but no water inflow. It was possible to evacuate the bowl.
This morning, being a Sunday and not having anything better to do, I decided to investigate the problem.
I do not profess to be an expert on Jabsco systems, but I have many years of unpleasant experience in trouble shooting and fixing their problems, including one incident in the Middle of Biscay on our one loo yacht and with females on board who had managed to block the loo – details not appropriate.
Other incidents involved joker valve turning inside out, heads backfilling at an alarming rate, holding tank overflow (details withheld), and many other minor catastrophes. Fortunately, Jabsco toilets are simple and thus easy to maintain and fix.
First step, undo the six self tappers on the pump cover, lift and what do we find –
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The guilty party, a washer of the type that grips on a shaft, was sitting under the intake flapper valve , thus preventing it from closing and allowing suction to be applied to the water inlet source.
I changed the ‘O’ ring, mainly because I had a lot of spares, greased the pump barrel liberally with Vaseline and re-assembled. Pump working fine.
After all the above waffle I come to the point – where did the washer come from? I looked at the Jabsco diagrams but it does not seem to be a part of the system. It is not pure stainless, as there is little or no\ rust on it, but so far it remains a mystery as to its origin.;)
M.
 
I don't know of any type of sea-cock that incorporates such a retainer but it is difficult to think of anywhere else it might have come from.
 
Recognised it instantly as I had just put one of our units back together. Just launched after >2.5 years ashore an forward head wasn't priming. The rubber had buckled upwards slightly on one valve to prevent it seating. I squeezed it flat with mole grips, applied some silicone grease and it was back in working order to cover Sunday. Today's job it to get a replacement for that part. I'll probably buy a pile of other bits as I replaced most other parts pre-launch.

I vaguely remember one of these falling off the same type of valve about 20-30 years ago in a previous boat. Not exactly a common fault.

Not too bad after being laid up since October 2019. The Honda generator and Mariner 3.3HP both leaked like sieves when fuelled up. Honda was dripping from fuel pump and Mariner leaked from fuel tap. I left them for a couple of days and started to dismantle enough to find the exact location for each leak. Wonder of wonders, neither one leaked anymore. I guess petrol has now expanded the seals after being bone dry for such a long time. Everything else survived pretty well. Engine, outboard and generator all had copious fogging oil applied in 2019. :D:D
 
Follow up to above.
I returned to the boat today and rummaged through my Jabsco spares bag, and found two used flapper valve assemblies.
However, as you can see in the photos, one valve was missing the little retaining washer and the brass valve plate fell off while I was examining it.
The other one is a bit of a mystery; one brass valve and one rubber – never seen one like that, until today. It seems to be in good condition so I will install it before the valve drops off the one in use., which as you know is missing its washer.


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Cheers,
Michael

p.s. check your washers!
 
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