Jabsco manual to electric conversion kit

[slavkod]

Dear all,

my wife has enough of manual toilet and would like electrical. We have Jabsco toilet on board that we can convert to electrical by purchasing conversion kit from Jabsco. The price is high (338-420 €) so I would like to learn about experience with this conversion kit and electrical flashing toilets in general.

Slavko

 

[davel]

They won\'t last.....

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electrical flashing toilets in general

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They're just a flash in the pan! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[slavkod]

Re: They won\'t last.....

OK, it is flushing toilet. Sorry for misspelling.

Slavko

 

[HeadMistress]

The Jabsco 29200 conversion is not one I'd recommend. It's noisy enough to wake the dead, and also draws a whopping 24a/flush--compared to 16a for most other electric macerating toilets--nor has it proven to be very durable...about 5 years max before needing repairs. And it costs at least as much or more than other better quality electric toilets. It's only real advantages are, it fits on the manual pump base and does have a valve to control flush water volume (which is only an advantage if filling up a holding tank is a concern).

I'd take a hard look at the Raritan SeaEra (http://www.raritaneng.com/products/toilets/electric/sea_era_conversion_kit.html)
And, with the current rate of exchange for the Pound vs the USD, you can import from a US vendor for considerably less than buying in the UK....boatfix.com (http://www.boatfix.com/elec/rarseaera.asp) has the best price I've found--less than $400--about 215 pounds...under 250 including shipping. The SeaEra is, hands down, the best electric toilet in its price range...the ONLY toilet I've NEVER been asked to trouble-shoot. Raw water version draws 16a/flush...pressurized flush water version uses only 10a.

All electric toilets that flush using sea water are somewhat noisy. Contrary to popular belief, it's not the macerator/discharge pump that makes all the noise, it's the intake pump. It's also the intake pump that uses most of the power. Toilets designed to use onboard pressurized water are actually quieter than most household toilets, use about 50% of the flush water, and only draw 10a/flush.

While macerating toilets can handle quick-dissolve toilet paper, they will choke on premium TP and anything else BUT quick dissolve TP...but that's true of all marine toilets..."flushable" at home does NOT mean flushable aboard.

(Btw, I would love to know how to add a British Pound sign to my computer that only "speaks" American English).

 

[philip_stevens]

£ = shift + 3. don't press the +

regards,
Philip

 

[slavkod]

Thank you for reply and information. Does this means that I would need to replace the toilet with the one you are recommending? Do you have any experience with Bavaria 40 Ocean and if you have ever made a replacement?
The last think I would like is to make noise in the quiet anchorage when running my electric toilet.

Slavko

 

[FWB]

Re: Pound sign

I have US computer also. To get £............ Press NUM Lk hold down Alt type 0163 on embedded keyboard or one on the right--not normal one--release alt and £ will appear.

 

[HeadMistress]

How much fresh water do you carry...enough that approx 2 gal/day/person for toilet flushing wouldn't put a strain on it? The pressurized flush water version would not only eliminate any noise, but also eliminate sea water odor problems.

Yes, you'd have to replace the entire toilet...however, you would be able to re-use the bowl, seat and lid...the "conversion" includes everything else.

Phillip, on American keyboards shift/5 = $, but shift/3 produces #...Another illustration of two cultures separated by a common language, I'm afraid. But thanks for trying!

 

[slavkod]

I carry 350 liters in two tanks and plan to instal watermaker next year.

Slavko

 

[Wiggo]

Peggy, I'm confused. Is that conversion kit for use with the Jabsco bowl, or do you need the whole shooting match from Raritan?

 

[branko]

Bog Slavko,
I have change my Jabsco manual toilets to electric with electrical conversion kit by Jabsco( also because of my wife!). Everything works OK except NOISE.
If you switch it on early in the morning you will wake up all Marina!

 

[slavkod]

Zdravo Branko,

thank you. The last thing I need is noise.

Pozdrav,

Slavko

 

[branko]

One more advice ! If you buy conversion kit than in USA (see www.defender.com) is 379$ + Slo taxes all together is much convenient than buying in TS or UK! As you have Bav40 little better than I have, try to change in one toilet first.See you on sea!

 

[SpiderDiver]

Have just swapped out my Jabsco electric toilet for the new Vetus SMTO electric quiet flush type due to the noise issue. New unit is fantastic - just one button for whole operation - now at 3 AM does not wake the neighbours!! Also took opportunity to convert to fresh water flush.

 

[HeadMistress]

Wiggo, Any bowl that has a 4-bolt mounting pattern (which is what at least 90% of 'em, including the Jabsco, are) can be used with the SeaEra. There wouldn't be much point in offering it as a "conversion" that includes everything but the bowl if you also had to buy a bowl.

The 29200 is not the only conversion Jabsco offers...their 37010 series is also available as a conversion (everything but the bowl too), both raw water and pressurized flush water versions...the SeaEra was purposely designed to be an identical higher quality/much more durable for about the same price, replacement for them...even the mounting bolt patterns are identical.

Slav, 350 liters appears to be sufficient to allow you to sacrifice some of it to toilet flushing--unless you have a cast of thousands aboard and like long showers. With a watermaker, you should have plenty. And as I mentioned earlier, all toilets designed to use pressurized flush water are VERY quiet.

But--VERY important caveat: NEVER connect any raw water toilet to the onboard fresh water plumbing...it cannot be done without risk of polluting the potable water supply with e-coli, damage to the toilet, or both. Yes, I know people have done it and have not (yet) had any problems...but they're playing Russian roulette...and the installation instructions for every raw water toilet warn against it. ONLY toilets designed by the mfr to use pressurized flush water can safely be connected to the fresh water system.