Is your house at risk whist you're away sailing?

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Is your house at risk whist you\'re away sailing?

Further to david36's posting on Liveaboard Forum I have just received the following from Ruth Kelly's department.

There seems to be an assumption that your house isn't really YOUR property but rather a sort of National Resource - but then they ARE socialists! As to the general tone:- patronising or what? She tries to convince in the first paragraph that it's for our own good! Please don't respond to that. The main aspect is too disturbing to let oneself be sidetracked.

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"Stephen

Thank you for your email of 19 June about Empty Dwelling Management Orders. These provisions were part of the Housing Act 2004, with the purpose of supporting the work already undertaken by many local authorities to persuade property owners to bring empty homes back into use. As well as affecting housing supply across the country, empty homes can attract anti-social behaviour, such as squatting and graffiti and more serious problems such as vandalism, drug-dealing and even arson. They can also erode the value of neighbouring properties.

Local authorities may apply to a Residential Property Tribunal for approval to make an Interim Empty Dwelling Management Order (Interim EDMO) where the dwelling has been vacant for at least 6 months and it considers the owner has no intention to secure occupation of it in the near future. However, there are many valid circumstances in which it is justified for dwellings to be unoccupied for periods in excess of 6 months at a time and the exemptions, listed below, are a reflection of these circumstances -

1) - property is normally your only, or main residence, but:
a) you are temporarily resident elsewhere;
b) you are absent so that you can be cared for elsewhere;
c) you are absent because you are caring for someone elsewhere
d) you are in the armed forces and are away from home on service
2) - second or holiday home;
3) - genuinely on the market for sale or letting;
4) - part of an agricultural holding/farm business;
5) - usually occupied by an employee of the owner;
6) - available for occupation by a minister of religion;
7) - subject to a court order freezing property assets of the owner;
8) - occupation prevented by criminal investigation/proceedings;
9) - mortgagee is in possession;
10) - owner has died (valid for 6 months after grant of probate).

Where a local authority is considering applying for an Interim EDMO, they should attempt to make contact with the owner of the property to ascertain their intentions with regard to the property. If a Residential Property Tribunal (RPT) is not satisfied that the local authority has done this, it is unlikely that they will approve the application.

For more information, you can visit our web site at www.communities.gov.uk/emptyhomes and download our leaflet about EDMOs, published on 9 June. The leaflet is aimed at owners whose property may, or may not be considered vacant for the purposes of these provisions in the Housing Act 2004.

I hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Rachel Edwards
Private Rented Sector Branch
Department for Communities and Local Government


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Re: Is your house at risk whist you\'re away sailing?

I think you will find that if yo uare paying council tax on the property it isn't considered 'vacant' but 1 (a) seems a pretty solid exemption ie It's my house but I am residing on my boat so leave me alone...........
 
Re: Is your house at risk whist you\'re away sailing?

Having lived in streets with "empty" houses you'll find that other residents will be very keen on having somebody occupy the houses other than squatters, drug dealers and inept arsonists. As a student I lived in a large house rent-free as the owner was though to have died quite a few years before.

Currently the house next door to mine has a "missing" owner and has been lived in by some (very pleasant) teachers for the last 8 years who have, however, left garden walls to fall down and plants to grow through window sills.

Surely nobody going sailing is going to leave their house entirely unoccupied for years, with no means of responding to post?
 
I posted more for information...

Not many people seem to view the "Liveaboards" forum.

I don't think that it's below the deviousness of some "authorities" to swipe a decent house though.

Steve Cronin
 
Re: Is your house at risk whist you\'re away sailing?

Steve,
Well done for getting this info out of Ms Kelly's Dept. I guess that ones view of the content depends upon just how much you trust your local council to look after your personal interests as a local property owner and tax payer compared to their desires to house local homeless folk etc!
I do notice with some concern that none of the exceptions quoted in the list would apply to a yachtie away sailing for a season or two as by definition that would not be resident elsewhere. Don't forget that to be judged resident elsewhere you would almost certainly need to be paying tax there! The other interesting point is that nowhere does it talk about properties being empty or untended just unoccupied.
I think that any yachtie planning to just go away for a year or so and just lock their home front door , even if they get the grass cut etc, is taking an almighty risk that when he gets back he might well have a real problem on his hands.
 
Re: Is your house at risk whist you\'re away sailing?

A friend of mine lived in a street near a large empty house that had remained empty and unmaintained for years.Strange thing is it was in a desirable area. It was a nightmare for the other residents occupied by drunks and tramps regullarilly on fire ,vermin everywhere.Impossible to sell or let houses near by.

Local Council took years to sort it out .i believe councils should have more powers to deal with cases like that.
 
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