rickwat
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Similarly midnight ? I would call noon 12AM and midnight 12PM but I see other interpretations.
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Is noon 12am or 12pm ?
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Twister_Ken
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24 hour clock makes life easier, nm
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BrianJ
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Do you mean north or south of the equator ??//
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Twister_Ken
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North or south of the equator
Doesn't that depend which way around the plughole was screwed into the galley sink?
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Doesn't that depend which way around the plughole was screwed into the galley sink?
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julesB
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It's neither: It's just 12 noon or 12 midnight!
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colin_jones
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You are not the only one confused. The military recognise the problem and only ever refer to 2359 and 0001. I can understand that.
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claymore
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1pm is afternoon - so is 12pm
8am is morning - so is 12am
never mind the plughole or the equator. This applies in leap years and is unrelated to the venereal equinox
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8am is morning - so is 12am
never mind the plughole or the equator. This applies in leap years and is unrelated to the venereal equinox
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snowleopard
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i.e. is noon before noon or after noon? does B come before or after B in the alphabet?
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cameronke
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Surely 12 noon should be 12m as in 12 meridian as am is anno meridian (before the meridian) and pm is post meridian (after the meridian) so the instantaneous moment that is noon is the meridian. Haven't a clue about midnight
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Twister_Ken
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You \'orrible little man
The military are quite happy to refer to 2400 or 1200. Or at least they were when I was a squaddie.
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The military are quite happy to refer to 2400 or 1200. Or at least they were when I was a squaddie.
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AndrewB
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Noon is 12am today, but 12pm next week!
To be totally anal about this, 1200 hours rarely exactly corresponds to the meridian. At Greenwich for example, 1200 GMT occurs before the meridian from January to mid-March and again July to mid August, and after at other times of the year.
So perhaps we should be talking about noon being 12am now, but in a week or so it will be 12pm. And at the end of March we're onto BST, so back to 12am again. ;-)
To be totally anal about this, 1200 hours rarely exactly corresponds to the meridian. At Greenwich for example, 1200 GMT occurs before the meridian from January to mid-March and again July to mid August, and after at other times of the year.
So perhaps we should be talking about noon being 12am now, but in a week or so it will be 12pm. And at the end of March we're onto BST, so back to 12am again. ;-)
bedouin
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I believe that Noon is 12pm - on the basis that the next minute is indisputably 12:01pm
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stephenh
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"I believe that Noon is 12pm - on the basis that the next minute is indisputably 12:01pm"
Or :
I believe that noon is 12am on the basis that the previous minute is indisputably 11.59 am.............!!!!!
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Or :
I believe that noon is 12am on the basis that the previous minute is indisputably 11.59 am.............!!!!!
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chas
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Re: You \'orrible little man
1200 fine but not 2400! mind you, I did not join up until 1964 and things may have changed by then.
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1200 fine but not 2400! mind you, I did not join up until 1964 and things may have changed by then.
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Nich39Nige
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Re: Noon is 12am today, but 12pm next week!
Surely noon is mid day....when the sun is at its zenith!
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Surely noon is mid day....when the sun is at its zenith!
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jollyjacktar
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Well then Squaddie
1200 is 1200 and the date is the day's given date. But 2400? Is that tomorrow, yesterday or today? Thus the military, when they give a date time reference NEVER use 2400, but 2359 or 0001 and a given date.
Perhaps if you were given an order to carry out on 2400 on say the 15th of March you would realize that the ambiguity would either make you a day early of a day late and that this would get you some extra time peeling potatoes no matter what you decided to obey. However if you were able to get a bucket of steam or a lefthanded fork as well, then I withdraw my objection.
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1200 is 1200 and the date is the day's given date. But 2400? Is that tomorrow, yesterday or today? Thus the military, when they give a date time reference NEVER use 2400, but 2359 or 0001 and a given date.
Perhaps if you were given an order to carry out on 2400 on say the 15th of March you would realize that the ambiguity would either make you a day early of a day late and that this would get you some extra time peeling potatoes no matter what you decided to obey. However if you were able to get a bucket of steam or a lefthanded fork as well, then I withdraw my objection.
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Twister_Ken
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Re: Well then Squaddie
In shooty situations you are undoubtedly correct. However the camp picket was changed at 0800, 1600 and 2400 every day.
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In shooty situations you are undoubtedly correct. However the camp picket was changed at 0800, 1600 and 2400 every day.
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anchorhandler
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Re: Noon is 12am today, but 12pm next week!
Lets not get too scientific here,......12 Noon, be it AM or PM is, in my opinion....................a perfect time for a pint! "Oh look its Beer-o-clock, time for a pint!"
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Lets not get too scientific here,......12 Noon, be it AM or PM is, in my opinion....................a perfect time for a pint! "Oh look its Beer-o-clock, time for a pint!"
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Rowana
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When I did my bit . . .
. . . for Queen and Country, we had to be back on board by 2359.
I seem to remember it was always written as "2359" and never "23:59" or "23-59" or anything else.
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. . . for Queen and Country, we had to be back on board by 2359.
I seem to remember it was always written as "2359" and never "23:59" or "23-59" or anything else.
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Sybarite
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Yes - or no as the case may be.
John
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