Is a survey always necessary?

I expect that any of them, once they know, will want you to do the reccomendations.... the trick is for them not to know in the first place. A bit like the other post with the heads outlet, now its on the report and they know, they have got you.

I have insured with GJW, not just because of no survey req'd and a good premium, but also because they have come quite well reccomended.
 
Pole Star - (KC Powell ...)

Excellent and I am with them.

Normal req'ts for non survey cover is that boat is 24ft or less. A letter from a recognised yard to state boat maintained etc.

They talk boat language and are ready to discuss properly.

I have no commercial connection - just a very satisfied client.
 
Survey. How long is it good for?

Glad I saw this thread.

Had a discussion with my wife over the weekend concerning surveys. My wife made the hard to refute point that if you were looking to spend, say, £12K on a car you would pretty much kick the tyres, check that it started and that the lights worked, ask to see an MOT certificate to prove that it, on the day of the test, conformed to the requirements and then sign the cheque. Simplified but you get the gist.

The only argument I could put back at that stage was that cars don't sink, and even now its not very convincing. Added to the weakness of my position was the fact that the boat we looked at last Saturday was surveyed in December 05 and has prety much not moved since. Again Heather's valid question was "why not ask to look at that one?" Now again, my response was a rather weak "I didn't pay for that survey, so its not mine to look at." Female incisive logic came back with "well does the fellow want to sell? If so, why shouldn't he let you read the survey, or even a summary?"

And now I find that I can't refute any of that. Anyone else, or must I admit that SWMBO is dead on the money?
 
Re: Survey. How long is it good for?

SWMBO is dead on the money.
I 'sold' a copy of a survey I had done,but I didn't buy the boat. 50 quid.
I 'bought' a copy of a recent survey from the surveyor for 50 quid, as it was 2 years old (boat had not moved).
Some others have asked anything up to 250 quid for a copy (36ft boat, 50k price tag, very recent survey.)

Worth a punt, it might save a few quid.
 
Andrew - she\'s right.

And if Seller with-holds the old survey - you could actually cite that in any claim for failure of the boat ... it's called knowingly withholding information .....

I don't know of sellers who don't pass on the surveys ... and a 2005 is valid for Insurance etc. If the boats stood on the same spot since it was conducted ... then it's survey in hand ... reading while chatting with owner about what repairs / recc'ds he completed ... to obtain differences etc.

SWMBO - in my mind is correct.
 
Re: Andrew - she\'s right.

One of the first questions I asked last year when looking to buy was "when was the last survey?" and second question was, "can I have a look?".

No matter how old the Survey was I always regarded seeing one as big plus and never had anyone admit to having a survey and not letting me see it for free. Obviously the newer the survey the more recent the info, but even older surveys can be interesting to read......were those Keel bolts EVER replaced??!!

After reading a few Surveys for the same model of boat you soon get a very good idea of what you should be looking for / asking about (and later giving your surveyor a pointer to). Of course as the Survey is not addressed to you it cannot be "relied on".

In fact if I was selling I would seriously think about getting a Survey done at my expense so I could pass it on to potential purchasers, AFTER having previously given her "a good seeing to" /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. (But hopefully this will be MANY years in the future!! and of course depends on the value of the boat itself).
 
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