Interesting article re-superyacht owners
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powerskipper
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Yes , it is, but the down side is as it says you can only either anchor off smaller ports or use large commercial ports for berthing, there are very few marinas that I know of that could take that size of vessel on the south coast , Some I believe have a 30 to 50 foot launch carried on board to , but just think ,
Yes you have the utter luxury but you would miss out on so much of the kind of boating that we enjoy.
so
Nice for a holiday but to own one, no thanks......................
Yes you have the utter luxury but you would miss out on so much of the kind of boating that we enjoy.
so
Nice for a holiday but to own one, no thanks......................
Talbot
Active member
IMHO the people who buy these sort of super yachts are not very interested in the sort of boating we enjoy anyway. It would appear that a lot of them are being purchased more as a statement of wealth and one-upmanship, and less for a way of life. Their loss /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
itsonlymoney
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You have got it in one Talbot
hlb
RIP
Yep. They can keep them. I just could not be arsed with that sort of life style, all those folk around all bloody day and night. Just like running a factory.
jfm
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Opposite view......
No doubt there are some in that category but that's a bit of an unfair sweeping statement. There are many many superyacht owners who are as mad keen on their boats as a typical forumite would be. I dont claim to know a large number of these folk but a few I know with 35m+ boats are proper mad keen boaters and not in the least motivated by the "show of wealth" aspect. Prince Al Waleed has been reported as spending hours grubbing around the inards of his superyacht Kingdom 5KR when he bought her. Both Joe Vittorias (snr and jnr) are mad keen yachters. Remember many superyachts are not bought turnkey but are commissioned by their owners who are experienced boaters and spend zillions of hours with the builder overseeing the build. Read for example the write-up on the build of Phoenix in this month's Showboats as but one example of owner involvement in the design and spec of a yacht. Jim Clark personally specced all the electronics on his Hyperion and Athena, and assembled a team of software writers - that's a serious commitment to the workings of the boat and not at al a sign of someone who just wants to flaunt wealth for the sake of it.
I think the folk to whom your statement applies tend to charter. Not always, I admit. Chartering is much less hassle than owning. You almost need to be a grade A boat-mad person to be bothered with ownership /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
No doubt there are some in that category but that's a bit of an unfair sweeping statement. There are many many superyacht owners who are as mad keen on their boats as a typical forumite would be. I dont claim to know a large number of these folk but a few I know with 35m+ boats are proper mad keen boaters and not in the least motivated by the "show of wealth" aspect. Prince Al Waleed has been reported as spending hours grubbing around the inards of his superyacht Kingdom 5KR when he bought her. Both Joe Vittorias (snr and jnr) are mad keen yachters. Remember many superyachts are not bought turnkey but are commissioned by their owners who are experienced boaters and spend zillions of hours with the builder overseeing the build. Read for example the write-up on the build of Phoenix in this month's Showboats as but one example of owner involvement in the design and spec of a yacht. Jim Clark personally specced all the electronics on his Hyperion and Athena, and assembled a team of software writers - that's a serious commitment to the workings of the boat and not at al a sign of someone who just wants to flaunt wealth for the sake of it.
I think the folk to whom your statement applies tend to charter. Not always, I admit. Chartering is much less hassle than owning. You almost need to be a grade A boat-mad person to be bothered with ownership /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
adey
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Quote:
"The super-yachts start at a few million dollars and rise to more than $200 million"
"...broker Jim McConville of International Yacht Collection in Fort Lauderdale. He usually does two or three deals a month, but is currently working five."
I wonder if he gets 8%+vat?
"The super-yachts start at a few million dollars and rise to more than $200 million"
"...broker Jim McConville of International Yacht Collection in Fort Lauderdale. He usually does two or three deals a month, but is currently working five."
I wonder if he gets 8%+vat?
Renegade_Master
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Re: Opposite view......
I have a customer in Banus with a 110ft Navetta who contacted us to do a day skipper for him his girlfriend, and two other family.
He was about to buy a SS Sportsfisher so he they could have some fishing fun, as his skipper and crew handle his superyacht so he never got to do the challenging bits.
I have a customer in Banus with a 110ft Navetta who contacted us to do a day skipper for him his girlfriend, and two other family.
He was about to buy a SS Sportsfisher so he they could have some fishing fun, as his skipper and crew handle his superyacht so he never got to do the challenging bits.
jfm
Well-known member
Re: Opposite view......
Exactly. I have a friend with a 35m boat but it's difficult to do much driving with pro crew so he bort a sunseeker 55 footer as well, to play with on his own. This happens often.
Exactly. I have a friend with a 35m boat but it's difficult to do much driving with pro crew so he bort a sunseeker 55 footer as well, to play with on his own. This happens often.
NorthernWave
New member
Re: Opposite view......
The owner of my boat loves boats and always has, (by the way he was reading this thread with interest). In relative terms his boat isn't that big at 33m but the reason he went for that size was to not have the hassle that the bigger boats have. At under 300gt we don't need a pilot, we can still sneak into little shallow bays, (although we have a 10 foot draft) and we can still turn up at marinas unannounced if we need to. He definately hasn't bought to show wealth.
Another point is I am currently looking for a new tender around the 30ft mark. The tender on the superyacht is nearly as important as the yacht itself, it's the first point of contact with the main yacht and the guests need to be comfortable and dry. Octapus has a 70ft tender as does Grand Bleue and Rising sun.
Chris
The owner of my boat loves boats and always has, (by the way he was reading this thread with interest). In relative terms his boat isn't that big at 33m but the reason he went for that size was to not have the hassle that the bigger boats have. At under 300gt we don't need a pilot, we can still sneak into little shallow bays, (although we have a 10 foot draft) and we can still turn up at marinas unannounced if we need to. He definately hasn't bought to show wealth.
Another point is I am currently looking for a new tender around the 30ft mark. The tender on the superyacht is nearly as important as the yacht itself, it's the first point of contact with the main yacht and the guests need to be comfortable and dry. Octapus has a 70ft tender as does Grand Bleue and Rising sun.
Chris
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Wrong attitude. Firstly, the superyacht industry generates thousands of jobs in the UK for designers, engineers and boatyard personnel and, secondly, new equipment and systems developed for superyachts eventually filters its way down into boats that we can afford
itsonlymoney
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I think Talbot's statement has been taken out of context by a few people.
He states that owners of superyachts are "not very interested in the sort of boating we enjoy anyway" by this I think he means that they are not "hands on boaters" enjoying tinkering about with there boat at weekends. I think he meant that the boating lifstyle that they enjoy is not the same boating lifstyle as the majority of us and therefore there is little comparison, and I have to say that I agree. I do not think that he meant these remarks to be deragatory to superyacht owners. Talbot also went on to state " that a lot of them are being purchased more as a statement of wealth and one-upmanship" a "LOT" of them being the operative word here not "ALL". Now come on we are not seriously disagreeing that "some" are a statement of wealth and status surely.
Ian
He states that owners of superyachts are "not very interested in the sort of boating we enjoy anyway" by this I think he means that they are not "hands on boaters" enjoying tinkering about with there boat at weekends. I think he meant that the boating lifstyle that they enjoy is not the same boating lifstyle as the majority of us and therefore there is little comparison, and I have to say that I agree. I do not think that he meant these remarks to be deragatory to superyacht owners. Talbot also went on to state " that a lot of them are being purchased more as a statement of wealth and one-upmanship" a "LOT" of them being the operative word here not "ALL". Now come on we are not seriously disagreeing that "some" are a statement of wealth and status surely.
Ian
