roblpm
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Hmmmmmm. Varnish? I don't mind all the other stuff! ?
I'm gonna buy a Fulmar tomorrow. Should I?
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doug748
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Looks like it's "Under Offer" on the Cove Brokerage site. They are flying off the shelves,
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roblpm
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Bloody hell....
roblpm
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Hang on.... I think they have two? I think it's the other one!
doug748
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You are right, looks ok as well.
KompetentKrew
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I've only been on a Fulmar once, but it made an impression and struck me as very capable.
I have a 40'er, but it can be quite a handful singlehanded - all the other singlehanders in the boatyard here have smaller boats, closer in size to the Fulmar. I'm sure you could easily go around the world in one.
I have a 40'er, but it can be quite a handful singlehanded - all the other singlehanders in the boatyard here have smaller boats, closer in size to the Fulmar. I'm sure you could easily go around the world in one.
ashtead
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You could also ask on the Westerly Owners Assoc in case anyone is thinking of selling ? It’s quite cheap to join and you might find a much loved example?
roblpm
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Ahahah now I want that one instead of the one round the corner.... ?
roblpm
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Yes. Also cheaper to park in an expensive Clyde marina for the next five years.
Skylark
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@roblpm An old westerly is far from your aspiration for a 40 ft AWB. There’s always a danger in buying an old boat that you’ll become an obsessive shipwright, not a sailor.
Buy with your head, not your heart. Don’t be pressured by current market conditions.
Good luck with your search.
Buy with your head, not your heart. Don’t be pressured by current market conditions.
Good luck with your search.
38mess
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Under offer. Might be a blessing. They are good boats but old, not that old is bad, especially if they have been loved.I did a bit of sailing on a fulma, I remember liking it but wouldn't want to own it. Go for your 40 ft white water boat.
I always remember a poem I learnt in school, the last line has stood with me all my life.
' never forget life is ebbing away'
Sorry to be so cheerful.
I always remember a poem I learnt in school, the last line has stood with me all my life.
' never forget life is ebbing away'
Sorry to be so cheerful.
Stemar
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If a Fulmar fits the bill now, go for it. You may well find that when you're ready for your forever boat, you already own her, and you'll have had all sorts of fun in the meantime.
I know plenty of people do it, but 40' is a lot of boat for a single hander
I know plenty of people do it, but 40' is a lot of boat for a single hander
tyce
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Lol, thought I would add to the urgency on this thread, I was diagnosed with an aggressive cancer less than a week ago, age 48, happy Christmas.! Get it bought you know it makes sense.
Very glad I have bought the boats I've had over the years certainly don't regret a minute playing on them.
Very glad I have bought the boats I've had over the years certainly don't regret a minute playing on them.
penfold
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Blueboatman
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I am genuinely shocked at the rotten dice throws given out to some on here at awful early ages.
So, to add encouragement to the OP:The Fulmar will do everything that you want of a 40footer , and sooner too, though I don’t like the idea of sticking it in an expensive marina for five years and carrying on working and working and working ….
For less money - if you don’t go mad and try to replace /upgrade everything, you will be sailing with smart sails and a full cruising inventory and less concerned about depreciation than on a shiny newer 40 footer .
And in the tropics ya live on deck anyway , number of cabins isn’t quite so important ..
Sooner is good. Happy sailing is happy health is higher dice throws at happy health into old age ??
So, to add encouragement to the OP:The Fulmar will do everything that you want of a 40footer , and sooner too, though I don’t like the idea of sticking it in an expensive marina for five years and carrying on working and working and working ….
For less money - if you don’t go mad and try to replace /upgrade everything, you will be sailing with smart sails and a full cruising inventory and less concerned about depreciation than on a shiny newer 40 footer .
And in the tropics ya live on deck anyway , number of cabins isn’t quite so important ..
Sooner is good. Happy sailing is happy health is higher dice throws at happy health into old age ??
KREW2
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Fulmar is a great boat. Forepeak and heads on my Storm was going to cost £1500 to reline. I put new Beta 25 in and that cost around £6000.
Apart from the lining it was in good condition, Westerly Storm 33 for sale - Yachtsnet Ltd. UK yacht brokers - yacht brokerage and boat sales and I didn't get much more for it than the asking price for the Fulmar, so I think £24k is a bit on the high side.
Apart from the lining it was in good condition, Westerly Storm 33 for sale - Yachtsnet Ltd. UK yacht brokers - yacht brokerage and boat sales and I didn't get much more for it than the asking price for the Fulmar, so I think £24k is a bit on the high side.
Concerto
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robplm.
Just thought you may like my comments, having been mentioned earlier in the thread. I am a BoatLine member for the Fulmar in the Westerly Owners Association, so can give useful information.
Fulmars are great boats to sail and were well constructed. This link is worth reading as it gives you lots of information.
Fulmar - Westerly-Wiki
For more Fulmars for sale the Westerly Owners Association boats for sale is worth checking out as there is a Fulmar available in Largs.
Craft for Sale
For the past 8 years I have been renovating my 1980 Fulmar Concerto. These links are all worth looking at.
https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/images/3/3f/Concerto.pdf
https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/images/8/86/Gel_coat_renovation_19May2020.pdf
https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/images/2/25/Interior_Woodwork_Concerto_PowerPoint.pdf
https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/images/1/17/Vinyl_Headling_Concerto_PowerPoint.pdf
Concerto at the Boat Show 2021
Concerto under spinnaker
Ghosting on the Medway
Salcombe to Isles of Scilly and back
Sailing from Chatham to Portsmouth and back
For a real time report on the renovation of Concerto is still available on the old WOA Forum (it was the 2nd most read thread).
Renovations to Fulmar Concerto - Westerly Owners Association
If you are going to buy a Fulmar, certainly join the Westerly Owners Association, What WOA can do for you and their forum. The WOA group insurance with Navigation and General has a discount that is bigger than the membership fee, so a big benefit of membership.
Hopefully this will not answer lots of your questions. If you have any further questions I would be happy to help.
Just thought you may like my comments, having been mentioned earlier in the thread. I am a BoatLine member for the Fulmar in the Westerly Owners Association, so can give useful information.
Fulmars are great boats to sail and were well constructed. This link is worth reading as it gives you lots of information.
Fulmar - Westerly-Wiki
For more Fulmars for sale the Westerly Owners Association boats for sale is worth checking out as there is a Fulmar available in Largs.
Craft for Sale
For the past 8 years I have been renovating my 1980 Fulmar Concerto. These links are all worth looking at.
https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/images/3/3f/Concerto.pdf
https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/images/8/86/Gel_coat_renovation_19May2020.pdf
https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/images/2/25/Interior_Woodwork_Concerto_PowerPoint.pdf
https://wiki.westerly-owners.co.uk/images/1/17/Vinyl_Headling_Concerto_PowerPoint.pdf
Concerto at the Boat Show 2021
For a real time report on the renovation of Concerto is still available on the old WOA Forum (it was the 2nd most read thread).
Renovations to Fulmar Concerto - Westerly Owners Association
If you are going to buy a Fulmar, certainly join the Westerly Owners Association, What WOA can do for you and their forum. The WOA group insurance with Navigation and General has a discount that is bigger than the membership fee, so a big benefit of membership.
Hopefully this will not answer lots of your questions. If you have any further questions I would be happy to help.
jonic
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Go for it.
The Fulmar is a great boat from Westerly and at the moment good boats are hard to find. We are almost sold out.
Looking ahead, the Pandemic/mortality certainly seems to have focused a lot of minds when it come to blue water cruising. Even with the current restrictions the rallies are fully booked and I am inundated with requests for cruising and blue water yachts wanted for 2022 and 2023.
The Fulmar is a great boat from Westerly and at the moment good boats are hard to find. We are almost sold out.
Looking ahead, the Pandemic/mortality certainly seems to have focused a lot of minds when it come to blue water cruising. Even with the current restrictions the rallies are fully booked and I am inundated with requests for cruising and blue water yachts wanted for 2022 and 2023.
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awol
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Doesn't really matter what you pay for it - you'll pour more money into it just to keep it floating, more than it cost in just a couple of years and you will not recoup on selling! Ian Nicholson is "the" surveyor to use if buying but remember your insurance company will want you to fix all the things he finds wrong. You don't need to keep her in a marina - cheaper options are available.
I sailed the same Fulmar as Dunedin - good strong boats, lots of sensible space, quite pleasant to sail but if a transom mainsheet will try to garrotte you when you gybe, chain locker drains into bilge so it's always damp, slams a bit in head seas but nothing like a Benjenbav - what's not to like?
Good luck but just in case, shouldn't you be thinking about your pension and care package in case you keep living?
I sailed the same Fulmar as Dunedin - good strong boats, lots of sensible space, quite pleasant to sail but if a transom mainsheet will try to garrotte you when you gybe, chain locker drains into bilge so it's always damp, slams a bit in head seas but nothing like a Benjenbav - what's not to like?
Good luck but just in case, shouldn't you be thinking about your pension and care package in case you keep living?
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laika
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I bought an oceanlord for an epic trip after being diagnosed with cancer at 41. Without going into details, after some bad luck with treatment I’ve had ongoing good fortune and went back to work, but am now in possession of a big bus of a boat which is expensive to keep in a marina and not ideal for pootling around the Solent at weekends.
The fulmar is a good boat (although it’s nearly 17 years since I sailed one). Better/worse than a modern awb? You decide. They’re overpriced because everyone wants one but they seem to hold value and let’s face it, mooring and maintenance are the same whatever you pay for one.
My advice is always buy the boat for what you want to do right now, not what you think you might want to do in a couple of years’ time because who knows what the future holds, good or bad. So yes, buy the fulmar (or similar) if it’s right for what you want to do at the moment
The fulmar is a good boat (although it’s nearly 17 years since I sailed one). Better/worse than a modern awb? You decide. They’re overpriced because everyone wants one but they seem to hold value and let’s face it, mooring and maintenance are the same whatever you pay for one.
My advice is always buy the boat for what you want to do right now, not what you think you might want to do in a couple of years’ time because who knows what the future holds, good or bad. So yes, buy the fulmar (or similar) if it’s right for what you want to do at the moment