I was a bit lucky

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We drove to SoF at the weekend and did the new LD Lines fast ferry Dover to Boulogne and paid the extrea to be in "Premium Seating". You get a free paper and a coffee but the best bit is there's no hoards of screaming kids running around the place, so a nice quiet seat at the very front of the ship and a civilised hour's break.

In total the ship was carrying 700 passengers from a max complement of 1200 so a bit over half full. And very [pleasant it is too. The Premium Seating area had us four and just one other couple and a staff of six waiters/stewards and since they only serve tea, coffee and croissants, to say the least the staff were really attentive and came and chatted to us. Several people tried to scam their way in but the staff were firm but fair and told 'em to effoff

As a joke just passing the time, I asked one of the lassies if I could have a tour round the bridge and a chat with the driver. She went away and came back a minute later and said OK follow me. Gobsmacked to say the least. I thought the terrorist bit had put paid to these types of trips.

So up we went to the bridge and pretty good it was too. Andy, the South African captain took great pains to explain everything to my non boaty friends but of course "I knew it all" so didn't need to ask any Q's. He was more interested in chatting about where we were going and what SoF is like but wasn't at all blase about his ship but of course it's all still new to him I guess

We spent about 20 mins on the bridge as they slowly brought it up from 20 knots to planing speed 28knots and then on to 35/38 knots. Sea state was 2m swells and you felt the ship move about but it was pretty smooth.

They've had this ship just 14 weeks from new, they sailed it through the Suez from Tasmania where it was built and it's the biggest wave piercing catamaran that they've built so far.

Obviously the bridge is one mass of screens, nine in total I think, showing charts, radar, engine telemetry and controls etc. Four medium speed diesel engines turning at 900 rpm driving water jets.

A couple of things I found surprising. They do have some paper charts "stuffed away in a drawer somewhere but never use them". And the steering wheel is in the arm of the captain's chair and is no bigger than 50mm. Yes really, 2 inches diameter.

If you're planning a x channel trip in the near future, highly recommended. And at under £100 for a car 4 pax and a dog (iirc he cost £30), it's cheaper than diesel for the boat.
 
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That was lucky.
Interesting too, thanks.
Similar a year or two ago.
Made a casual remark to the Bursar on the Fast Ferry from Holyhead to Dublin.
'OK' but only for 10 mins.

Ha! the Skipper was from My village would you believe!
Blimey I sat in His chair while He went for a cuppa!!
'Don,t touch anything' Blimey My fingers were twitching.
But the Crew kept a beady eye on the Job!

Like you say loads of screens and a titchy steering wheel..
Charts were present and at the ready though.

Spent 3/4 of an hour up there.
Skipper and Crew were very hospitable too.

40 kts flippen amazing.
 
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Cheap or waht

Have just had a look at their booking site,a day return mid week in mid August for two peeps and basic car (in steerage of course) for under £50.00 ????
 
some good value there

Have just had a look at their booking site,a day return mid week in mid August for two peeps and basic car (in steerage of course) for under £50.00 ????

it's the longer trips that look better value - 4 nights in Sept still £50

for the day return or overnight the EuroT works best and is comparable price
 
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Skipper and Crew were very hospitable too.
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Glad to hear that - we aim to please.
On sea trials the sister ship of the Stena Explorer clocked 55kts flat out but you really don’t want the fuel bill.
 
Kwackers

Me and coliholic, used to have some laughs at the beginings of the forums, there were a few of us, often called "the rat pack" Threads got pulled by Kim the forum man, cos we suggested just pouring antifouling in the sea, and just zooming over it. Kim used to post, as to how we were supposed to respond and give examples. It was mainly just a riot.:)
 
Coliholic

The ships are built in Hobart (Tas.) and have been since the late 1980's. The company, Incat, have been a great success over the years. Owned and operated by a local family, are one of the biggest employers in the state.
 
Coliholic

The ships are built in Hobart (Tas.) and have been since the late 1980's. The company, Incat, have been a great success over the years. Owned and operated by a local family, are one of the biggest employers in the state.

Yes AndieMac, Andy the captain took great pride in telling us a little about Incat (are you one and the same???). So since you're local to them, give us the story about their history and how/why they've cornered the market in these high speed aluminium cats.

Amazing that none of the other shipyards have picked up on thr concept. Can't be patented can it?

And to HLB, of course we could just lay some sheets of aly on the sea and drive over 'em and ......................
 
Incat shipyard is 120 miles south of us, no connection, and owned by the Clifford family. A tough, determined man (Bob) believed in his product (always catamarans), took on a competitive global market and started kicking goals. Over the years the business has had its ups and downs, with main competitor Austral ships (Western Aust., a different design of cat. ) closely nipping at its heels.

Market is mainly Asia and Britain, although a prototype was supplied to US army a few years ago with view to purchase (potential big sale), but something got dodgey and ugly, and the deal fell over.

When I think about it most/all commercial, passenger vessels built in this country, between 15 -100 metres are alloy catamarans. The wave-piercing concept is only adopted by Incat.
 
Me and coliholic, used to have some laughs at the beginings of the forums, there were a few of us, often called "the rat pack" Threads got pulled by Kim the forum man, cos we suggested just pouring antifouling in the sea, and just zooming over it. Kim used to post, as to how we were supposed to respond and give examples. It was mainly just a riot.:)


Right.
 
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When I think about it most/all commercial, passenger vessels built in this country, between 15 -100 metres are alloy catamarans. The wave-piercing concept is only adopted by Incat.[/QUOTE]


When I think about it most/all commercial, passenger vessels built in this country, between 15 -100 metres are alloy catamarans. The wave-piercing concept is only adopted by Incat.[/QUOTE]

Not the only ones, Austal build them and the largest in the world was built by the Finns at Aker Finyard in Rauma .

http://www.austal.com

http://www.akerfinnyards.com/aker6.cfm

The problem with Ally commercial fast craft is always the weight of ship vs engine power vs the payload vs the fuel costs and then add to that the inherent fragility of Ally welding in a seaway.
Incat are for sure the most prolific exponents of catamarans but its tough and diminishing market.
 
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When I think about it most/all commercial, passenger vessels built in this country, between 15 -100 metres are alloy catamarans. The wave-piercing concept is only adopted by Incat.


When I think about it most/all commercial, passenger vessels built in this country, between 15 -100 metres are alloy catamarans. The wave-piercing concept is only adopted by Incat.[/QUOTE]

Flippen eck

I think You should move berths.

The Parrot close to you is having an effect!;)

The problem with Ally commercial fast craft is always the weight of ship vs engine power vs the payload vs the fuel costs and then add to that the inherent fragility of Ally welding in a seaway.
Incat are for sure the most prolific exponents of catamarans but its tough and diminishing market.[/QUOTE]

A diminishing market?
I bow to Your knowledge of said market.

Do you mean the structure of these vessels or the Fast Ferry/ Commercial stuff in general?
Over;)
 
He is right though Kwacker......... I just didn't want to rattle on about the subject in case no-one was interested.

These quick delivery ships are best suited to relatively short distances in sheltered waterways for the reasons wp1234 says.

Alloy will stress and crack, and Incat learned this, with years running a service over here between Tasmania and Victoria (Bass Strait) in the smaller 98 metre ships.
The 180 mile daily voyage, in often punishing conditions, honed their understanding of what their vessels could realistically achieve.

We would have liked them to retain the fast service and support a local industry, but the politicians bought 2 Greek steel ships (100 metres) instead.

The issue was the fast service (38 knots and 5 hour trip) could not always be maintained because of the rough sea conditions, and would have to slow down too often for passenger comfort.
They thought that the steel ships (20 knots and overnight) would cope better.
As it has turned out, the steel ships can be up to 10 hours late if battling a head sea and reguarly suffer serious bow damage. They shut down 3 engines and run on 1, at 7 knots when the conditions become adverse, to minimise the caving in of the steel plate! They had the wheelhouse windows (30 metres above water) punched out one night, and returned to port.
 
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