I need a distance measurement

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I need to know the minimum distance by sea from Porto Rotondo in NE Sardinia to Novigrad in N Croatia. Anyone got a program on their puter that can give this or is their some free software on the net that I can use myself?
 
Deleted User said:
I need to know the minimum distance by sea from Porto Rotondo in NE Sardinia to Novigrad in N Croatia. Anyone got a program on their puter that can give this or is their some free software on the net that I can use myself?
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Google Earth maybe.
 
Deleted User said:
Anyone got a program on their puter that can give this
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Not automatically, afaik.
It would be interesting, btw, and I always wondered why none of the charting SW companies thought of including such algorythm in their programs. That said, it's actually a matter of a few clicks if you have frinstance the Garmin sw on your PC.
The answer to your question is 937 NM.
But that's the very minimum distance, involving a 323 NM leg from Sardinia to Messina Strait. Has your boat such range?
 
Thanks to all. Skipper who did the trip has confirmed it was pretty much dead on 1000nm. I'm having an argument over the invoice sent to me by company who arranged delivery trip so I needed to make an estimate of the cost
Anyone know how much fuel costs per litre in Italy? I assumed €1.1/litre. Also how much would a 15m marina berth cost per night considering it's winter. I assumed €50 per night?
 
Deleted User said:
Anyone know how much fuel costs per litre in Italy? I assumed €1.1/litre. Also how much would a 15m marina berth cost per night considering it's winter. I assumed €50 per night?
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€1.12/litre is the rock bottom price that you can find on the road, but €1.25 or so is more like it, for boat services. I'm talking about non-tax exempt diesel, of course.
Re.mooring, €50/60 per night should be sufficient, considering both the season and the marinas along that route that they might have used. There aren't posh and expensive marinas down there.
 
Freebee said:
how about this,
http://www.searates.com/reference/portdistance/?fcity1=6923&fcity2=22690&speed=14&ccode=3738
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Nice, I didn't know it. But it just has a databse of the major commercial harbours, probably with all the routes and distances pre-calculated and stored in the same database.
It would have been useless to answer Deleted User question.
What I meant was a software capable of actually calculating the shortest route from anywhere to anywhere else, based on the map constraints. I'd be curious to hear if anyone is aware of a SW with such capabilities.
 
MapisM said:
Nice, I didn't know it. But it just has a databse of the major commercial harbours, probably with all the routes and distances pre-calculated and stored in the same database.
It would have been useless to answer Deleted User question.
What I meant was a software capable of actually calculating the shortest route from anywhere to anywhere else, based on the map constraints. I'd be curious to hear if anyone is aware of a SW with such capabilities.
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Yes there are several

fairplay do a Veson Distance Table that is incl in a shipping data base that is web based or CD Rom to Pc.

Also there is the old BP Distant tables that were put into electonic format a few years ago and marketed by AtoBviaC I think.

The giys behind this also produce a chartercalc SW product that has an electronic distance table for chartering calc. Based on BP distances.


There maybe others too these days
 
MapisM said:
Nice, I didn't know it. But it just has a databse of the major commercial harbours, probably with all the routes and distances pre-calculated and stored in the same database.
It would have been useless to answer Deleted User question.
What I meant was a software capable of actually calculating the shortest route from anywhere to anywhere else, based on the map constraints. I'd be curious to hear if anyone is aware of a SW with such capabilities.
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Not software as such, but the Garmin 4000/5000 series will calculate from A to B and route you there the same as your sat nav. Not sure if their new PC based planner, Homeport, includes that facility.
 
mjf said:
fairplay do a Veson Distance Table that is incl in a shipping data base that is web based or CD Rom to Pc.
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Interesting. I googled for it, and found this webpage, according to which there is a "Distance Tables Module" (scrolling down the page) wihch does exactly what I told.
That's pretty much commercial-oriented though.
I don't think it would be worth for any pleasure boater to spend £420 just to add such calculation...
 
PaulGooch said:
Not software as such, but the Garmin 4000/5000 series will calculate from A to B and route you there the same as your sat nav. Not sure if their new PC based planner, Homeport, includes that facility.
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Do you mean considering also any constraints in between? I mean, Islands, channels, depth...?
Now THAT would be nice, particularly in some areas like frinstance the Croatian archipelago.
 
MapisM said:
Interesting. I googled for it, and found this webpage, according to which there is a "Distance Tables Module" (scrolling down the page) wihch does exactly what I told.
That's pretty much commercial-oriented though.
I don't think it would be worth for any pleasure boater to spend £420 just to add such calculation...
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Concur.

The routing is quite good however as it includes deviations for Traffic Seperation Lanes and other navigational constraints that apply/affect most deep sea commercial tonnage

That BTW is why only major 'big ship' ports are included.
 
MapisM said:
Do you mean considering also any constraints in between? I mean, Islands, channels, depth...?
Now THAT would be nice, particularly in some areas like frinstance the Croatian archipelago.
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Yep, the plotter can be configured with your draft, air draft, how far from the shore you want to travel etc. Garmin call it auto guidance. It does need the G2 vision charts to work. Haven't used it personally, but i know someone who has it they say it's really good.
 
PaulGooch said:
Yep, the plotter can be configured with your draft, air draft, how far from the shore you want to travel etc. Garmin call it auto guidance.
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Wow, really? Either I just missed that, or they're not advertising such feature properly.
That alone is enough to put at rest any chartplotter brand debate, at least for those who are cruising in areas where any route is always a bit complicated.
The Croatian islands which I previously mentioned are a good example: in some occasions, I had to arrange routes with up to 30 or so waypoints just for one day of cruising... Which is also fun at first, but not anymore after a while!
 
MapisM said:
Wow, really? Either I just missed that, or they're not advertising such feature properly.
That alone is enough to put at rest any chartplotter brand debate, at least for those who are cruising in areas where any route is always a bit complicated.
The Croatian islands which I previously mentioned are a good example: in some occasions, I had to arrange routes with up to 30 or so waypoints just for one day of cruising... Which is also fun at first, but not anymore after a while!
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Definitely something that they don't seem to be heavily advertising, it's also not overly documented in the manual. From having a quick glance through the manual it seems that it offers you the route (or routes) and i'd guess you accept it and you then follow the route as if you'd plotted it yourself.
 
MapisM said:
The Croatian islands which I previously mentioned are a good example: in some occasions, I had to arrange routes with up to 30 or so waypoints just for one day of cruising... Which is also fun at first, but not anymore after a while!
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What? I can't be doing with all that, especially after a few bottles of vino and too much sun. The whole point of Med cruising is that the navigation is 'what you see is what you hit'. Why do you have to use so many waypoints in Croatia, in particular?
 
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