hurley 22 vs hurley 22 ravensail

[StevenF]

hi all i have been looking for my first boat for years (spend lots of time dreaming) iand i always fancy a hurley just because im told that i could go anywhere in one if i wanted. now i think ive found it ,its on ebay and looks readie to go but my worry is that its made by ravensail not hurley-marine my question is are the as hard and strong or better ?

any thoughts welcome





always looking to go sailing can u help?

 

[Lakesailor]

The moulds were taken over by John Rattenbury of Ravensail Marine in 1981 and production was moved from Plymouth to Okehampton. The new yachts were moulded by Marine Projects of Plymouth who built the Moody, Princess, Cobra and Sigma range of vessels. Selling to Hurlwind Yachts in 1989 who moved production to Crediton.

More on the Hurley Owners website

 

[StevenF]

More on the Hurley Owners website

thanks lake sailor for the reply i have read most of that web site. im hope to find if the glass layering is the same thickness build qulity , also has any sailed the what are they like?

 

[Lakesailor]

The other boats they moulded were well respected. Any boat that old by now will be more subject to a current condition survey than it's build reputation.
Ie, If they haven't got appreciable osmosis or crazing they are good, if they have, consider moving on.

 

[Dipper]

thanks lake sailor for the reply i have read most of that web site. im hope to find if the glass layering is the same thickness build qulity , also has any sailed the what are they like?

I owned an early bilge keel Hurley 22 for several years. They are very solid and forgiving and ideal as a first boat. Several have crossed the Atlantic and I believe one has crossed the Pacific. Mine wasn't very fast in light winds but had a good turn of speed when the wind picked up and others were scurrying for shelter. It also had the feel of a much larger yacht and thanks to its heavy displacement it was very stable.

Mine was quite basic inside. The later versions (including Ravensail) were more modern inside with a separate heads. I don't know if the hull layup was the same but I'm sure it would be more than adequate. One fault that occurred with some Hurley 22s is that the base of the mast damaged the coachroof since there was no compression post below (at least on the early models) so this is something to look out for.

Although the one on eBay looks good, buying unseen is risky. If you can get to view the boat (taking someone knowledgeable with you) you are less likely to buy one with major structural problems.

 

[Pleiades]

Hurley magic

Had a fantastic Ravensail Hurley 22R for 10 years - sailed us all around the Western approaches and channel waters. Beautifully built - long fin keel, very comfy teak interior, excellent Yanmar diesel inboard, wonderful sea boat. Mine was built to Lloyds 100A1. No structural weaknesses but some cosmetic problems - I found a few minor voids in the mouldings over the years caused by poor layup but no blisters or osmosis. Key area to inspect is the skeg and the area where the rudder mounting bracket clamps onto the skeg - there is not much grp there to take the load so it has got to be 100% sound.
Hope you get a good one.
Fair winds and tides.
Robin

Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

 

[Ubergeekian]

Hope you get a good one.

That one on eBay looks jolly smart - though as ever I wonder why on earth they didn't take their rubbish away before taking the pictures.

 

[StevenF]

thanks all for the info the main reason im thingking the ravensail is due to the seperate head (hope it will be easyer to intice girls to come sailing with me by saying it has a loo thats not under the bed "berth")

i like the idea of going sailing when people are heading in due to excess wind my stomping ground will be medway/thames estuary so very worryed bout bottom bashing sand banks was even considering a Maurice Griffiths yacht

 

[Lakesailor]

:intice girls to come sailing with me

:i like the idea of going sailing when people are heading in due to excess wind

Er. Doesn't compute. Mutually exclusive goals.

 

[StevenF]

Er. Doesn't compute. Mutually exclusive goals.

lol its a working idear but thinking a bout that boat could do both just on diffent days, also there is nothing to say that i wont become a little girl and start crying for mummy when the wind gets up only time will tell because altouth they say good sea boat its still 22` and not 46` witch im learning on

 

[StevenF]

hurley vs corbee

ok now the price has been lowered and there is still time and other boats so not in no hurry

so now i have another question hurley 22 vs corbee i have followed nathen lee on kudo and seeing the last part of the trip to scotland was woundering if the heavy displament of a hurley would not of stood him in better steed, they are round the same price, same age , same speed far as i can tell, but as far as i tell (only from reading) a better sea boat the hurley should be so y do people go for the corbee, am i missing a trick?

mr r taylor
mr n lee
Dame Ellen Patricia MacArthur
if any of you read this would love your input

 

[Tranona]

It is all too easy to get hung up on this ultimate seaworthiness bit. The reality is that most people never get anywhere near the extreme conditions their boat could handle.

Boats like the Hurley have the hull form they do because that is what was considered appropriate at the time - clear ancestry to wooden boats which were primarily that shape because that is the shape that wood liked to follow. The resultant cramped accommodation was likewise accepted because it was better than camping!

Note that just about nobody makes boats like that anymore and modern designs are clearly capable of meeting most needs. The enormous advantage of boats like the Hurley is that they are cheap! A new boat with similar capability would cost more than 10 times as much.

For coastal sailing there are very few "bad" boats and when you are spending relatively small amounts of money, it is condition and equipment levels that are perhaps more important to the quality of experience than some vague notion of "seaworthiness". Have a look at the Jester entry list to see the eclectic range of designs others consider seaworthy!