Hunter 21 project

[Rainbow21]

Hi .

Having recently purchased a 1994 hunter horizon 21, I am looking to put her back to her original configuration in the cabin department. Could anyone point me in the direction of someone that could provide the original port and starboard seat cushions and Forepeak V cushions, also looking to reinstate an original cooker/ washing station.

Above deck I have been toying with the idea of reinstating the self tacking system, Is this worth doing, as I have heard that they sail better without them.

I welcome any comments on both

 

[Tranona]

For the cushions etc you just need an upholsterer to measure and cut the foam to shape and cover in your choice of fabric. Does not need to be a "marine" specialist. If you say where the boat is located somebody here will almost certainly be able to give recommendations.

 

[wallacebob]

Your first job; join Hunter Association. Very good website, active forum and regular zoom sessions.

 

[Rainbow21]

Your first job; join Hunter Association. Very good website, active forum and regular zoom sessions.

hi,
yes that sounds like a good call

 

[Rainbow21]

For the cushions etc you just need an upholsterer to measure and cut the foam to shape and cover in your choice of fabric. Does not need to be a "marine" specialist. If you say where the boat is located somebody here will almost certainly be able to give recommendations.

My boat lives on the isle of Wight, or will be soon, once I get her home.

 

[Tranona]

If you can template your cushions then suggest her is a good place to get them made
sewtrim.co.uk

However you will almost certainly find somebody on the Island that can do it

 

[Concerto]

Marine upholsterers are far more expensive than caravan upholsterers. Do check out plenty of places for costing. Also ask locally if there is someone who does upholstery as a sideline either working at home or on a boat. Basically all they need is an industrial sewing machine and a little space.

8 years ago I went through the same process for my Fulmar. I was quoted from £2500 depending on the fabric chosen by 3 marine upholsterers. From a local recommendation found someone who would cut and make up. I had to purchase the material. One fabric I liked from a marine upholsterer, I found exactly the same fabric from a remnant supplier on eBay. Total cost was just under £800 and that also included the curtains which were an extra from the marine suppliers..

 

[ProDave]

The self tacking jib has advantages and disadvantages.

The obvious advantage is, well it self tacks.

Disadvantages, it does not sail very well dead downwind, it is better off a little off dead downwind, or fly the spinnaker. and you can't heave to. We are going to experiment with a preventer to allow that next season.

 

[RogerJolly]

A modern scheme is to keep the self tacking jib, with all its advantages, but add a big furling Code 0/geneker type thing for more off-wind work in lighter airs.

Something like Crusader's 'Super Zero'. An option I'm looking into.

 

[Dunx]

My boat lives on the isle of Wight, or will be soon, once I get her home.

When I’ve phoned around in the past I found a couple of car upholsterers on the Island who do boats as a side line. Worth a phone around. Also agree join the owners association as it’s a great reference.

 

[Dunx]

Above deck I have been toying with the idea of reinstating the self tacking system, Is this worth doing, as I have heard that they sail better without

I had a Horizon 30 with a self tracker, mixed views really, good for single handing in tight spaces but does comprise sailing performance and had a tendency to fail to tack without easing the sheet first. It may work out quite an expensive exercise if you need to replace the track and modify or replace the sail.

 

[Rainbow21]

I had a Horizon 30 with a self tracker, mixed views really, good for single handing in tight spaces but does comprise sailing performance and had a tendency to fail to tack without easing the sheet first. It may work out quite an expensive exercise if you need to replace the track and modify or replace the sail.

Hi Dunx,
I have, in the past been on a Hunter 24 with self tracking and ended having to tie a line to the carriage to put it across plus copious amounts of soapy water and silicone grease in the track.

 

[Dunx]

Once you tack, try easing the sheet then it may complete its journey across the track, then re-trim. Not the utopian dream of self tacking but you get used to it. Yes agree lots of dry lube or equivalent on the track help.

 

[wallacebob]

Hunters (Hyde sails) answer was a lightweight cruising chute: The Scooper. Combined with a Snuffer it is great in light winds, and used on HH23-27 , maybe bigger!
Many people have converted the self tackers to normal Genoa plus tracks/winches. Easily doable, but loses the original ease.

 

[burgundyben]

There's an upholstery chap in Cowes, through a door to the side of the rear entrance ramp of Cowes Yachthaven.

And one at Bowcombe industrial estate.

 

[[193211]]

If the ST is sticking, the wheels on the car will be loose or jammed with corrosion. New car will sort the problem on a 19mm track.

 

[William_H]

For upholstery. It is not really that hard to DIY. You need foam that you cut to size and shape. ie a mattress. You need to calculate the amount of fabric of your choice for both top and bottom. You need a sewing machine. (not industrial as previously suggested) Get a bit of practice with sewing machine. Buy thread of course. gutterman do a upholstery thread just a bit heavier than usual thread. get lots of velcro hook and pile.
Use the shaped foam as a template to cut out the top and bottom fabric with about 2 cms excess all round. You then cut a long piece to cover sides also with 2cm excess both sides this goes right around from front to back. At the hull side bottom you fit velcro to enable the cover to be fitted or removed for washing.
Whole thing is sewn inside out then reversed through the back bottom opening.
If you have doubts about your ability. Buy some cheap cotton drill fabric and an old mattress and try it all out. Can be fun inside in winter. Plus save a heap of money. On my little 21fter I use cheap dark blue cotton drill. I remove it each winter for washing. Being cheap I do not pain sop much if it gets stained or stepped on. Little boat is a work horse not a show piece.
Looks serviceable if not classy. ol'will

 

[Rainbow21]

There's an upholstery chap in Cowes, through a door to the side of the rear entrance ramp of Cowes Yachthaven.

And one at Bowcombe industrial estate.

Hi Burgundyben,

Thanks for the info. I will pop in tomorrow.

Cheers