How to spot an ex charter yacht

[jonjo]

Given a yacht for sale in UK waters can anyone suggest a few telltale signs that a yacht spec has been upgraded at some point in the past to meet DOT commercial charter requirements?

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[Aja]

Warning stickers all over the place..

e.g. "Do NOT open this hatch at sea..."

Donald

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[Innes_Ker]

1.Ask the seller; his reply is a "repesentation" for contract purposes so should be honest (or you can sue later);
2.Check the previous Bills of Sale which form part of the title documents. Any corporate owners are a dead give away.
3.Is the forehatch hinged forward or aft? Most non -coded versions will be aft hinged for ventilation reasons, but the MCA regs require forward ones.
4.Are engine hours excessively high for boat's age?
5. Ask the main importer for the make of yacht, coz if it was in charter from new the importer probably ordered "coded" specifications from the factory. If the boat is a J -you-know-who (no advertising today!!) then I can look it up for you.
6. Count the repairs to the hull/toerails.....

PS Not ALL charter boats have been flogged to death; we have sold some in genuinely better condition than most equivalent privately-owned yachts.

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[Steve Clayton]

All of the above in mails plus:


definitely:
galley strap.

engine raw water intake outside the engine bay

re-inforced/braided flexible fuel lines

very high looped heads (can be difficult to spot).

Possibly:
part 1 registration- don't know whether MCA would release information as to whether a vessel is/was registered for pleasure or commercial

Steve


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[jonjo]

> engine raw water intake outside the engine bay

To permit closing of the seacock in the event of an engine fire? I like it.

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[Steve Clayton]

Exactly!! - makes sense

S

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[snowleopard]

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the SSR officially don't register charter boats, of course if they are registered under an individual name that can be circumvented.

other signs-

a serrated stem
gelcoat crazing round the stanchion bases
groups of little holes on bulkheads where notices have been fixed
labels saying things like 'on / 'off'
all the safety equipment in date
full sets of (cheap) crockery etc.

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[Steve Clayton]

Clarification:

SSR is part 3 registration; cheap and cheerful. I was refering to part 1; required for a number of reasons, one of which being putting the yacht to charter.

Steve

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[snowleopard]

my point was that a charter boat could have SSR/part 3 registration (mine did).

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[JMM]

VAT not included in price.

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[johnsail]

< very high looped heads (can be difficult to spot) >

Please - why is this done?


John

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[dickh]

High looped inlet & outlet hoses are to prevent syphoning of sea water through the heads if the seacocks are not closed when underway/or if the hrad is installed below sea water level. A good idea anyway if you head is not brand new and has slightly leaking seals etc. And is recommended in the installation instructions with all new toilets.

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