How to hoist a courtesy flag

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Following on from the excellent debate about flags and ensigns below - I've always found taking courtesy flags down, putting them up and transferring them across a right pain in the proverbial.

Mine, in common woth most I guess, have a toggle one end and a piece of cord on the other. I have loops permanently in the hoisting lines for the toggle / cords - but as the lines get damp they tend to grip the toggle and sometimes it's a struggle to get them on an off.

But I'm probably doing it wrong. Anyone got any other suggestions?

Nick
 
E(I?)nglefield clips on the halyards and the flags, fine if you only have a few flags, but they are not that expensive. I find this makes bending on burgees etc. quick and easy, and secure.
 
I use courtesy flags that don't have the toggle. They have an eye top and bottom. I have a short length of line attached at each eye and then use a rolling hitch to attach the flag to the flag halyard - takes a few seconds.
 
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Inglefield Clips

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I use the brass admiralty pattern ones (see above) on the haliards, and Holt HA74 "Spinnaker Clips" on the flags. Spend many a happy hour 2 winters ago sewing them all on.

John
 
It's all very well if you wait to get into harbour but I like to change flags when my chart plotter shows I'm crossing a border and when it's a bit choppy I like to delegate the task but tend to get funny looks from SWMBO. Anything to make it easier is welcome and one thing we could do is campaign for a standard Eurotoggle instead of the assorted sizes at present. At least it would give our Euro-MPs something useful to do. In the mean time it's back to adjusting bowlines I suppose.
 
I always knew them as Englefield clips.

It was to be the job of the junior apprentice to remove flag toggles on new flags and sew the clips into the pocket in the flag hoist leaving only just enough of the clip showing to clip on to the halliard, leaving the smallest gap when hard up against the crosstree or truck. Anything else is plain sloppy.

Red Ensign and courtesy ensign (national flag not maritime) run up together on the 0800 bell, all other flags broken out together when Red Ensign and courtesy ensign touches the crosstree.

National flags and ensigns should NEVER be broken out, very bad form.
 
Inglefield clips are a wonderful invention and we have them on the shapes too, but to get the benefit of the swivel action you really need need two little blocks on the spreader. One to uphaul, then across and one for 'downhaul' (not really a downhaul but you will get the drift). This would stop the flag or shape wrapping itself round the 'downhaul'. Next time mast is down...
 
'...sew the clips into the pocket in the flag hoist leaving only just enough of the clip showing to clip on to the halliard...'

out of interest which bit of the Inglefield clip ties onto the flag (and how) and which bit stays on the halyard? (sorry being thick)
 
Yes I get your drift.
The late Bernard Hayman wrote a wonderful article on flags in one of the mags a few years ago.
He swore by Inglefield Clips and described a happy winter swapping the toggles for them. I have always meant to do this.
RestlessL idea above is good, I must get around to it.
 
Swivel part of the clip goes on the hallyard, palm and needle whip and not tie, the solid clip will slip nicely inside the pocket of the flag hoist with just enough peeping out to clip on to.
 
I put a clove hitch onto the toggle, and a bowline on the bottom (i.e., a permanent bowline on the flag, and another bowline from the hoisting line).

Someone will now point out the errors of my ways ...
 
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