alant
Well-Known Member
Interesting article in RYA Autumn Magazine edition.
No-one seems to want them!
Whats your solution?
No-one seems to want them!
Whats your solution?
How to dispose of old flares safely?
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alldownwind
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Speaking as a coastguard, I'd say your local CG team is likely to be a lot more willing and able to take them off your hands than the article suggests.
Phone your nearest CG MRCC (i.e. Thames, Dover, Solent, wherever) and ask. By the way, this applies only to small quantities e.g. a typical flare pack off a leisure craft.
Phone your nearest CG MRCC (i.e. Thames, Dover, Solent, wherever) and ask. By the way, this applies only to small quantities e.g. a typical flare pack off a leisure craft.
badman
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There is a danger letting off old flares on the 5th Nov.
New flares extinguish before they land, old flares often do not so there is a danger of starting a house fire.
I was in St Malo one Bastille day flares where used one did not go out in time, it landed on a brand new unoccupied French boat and but for the timely action of the British boat tied along side it would have been a disaster.
So think hard before letting off flares on or near land.
New flares extinguish before they land, old flares often do not so there is a danger of starting a house fire.
I was in St Malo one Bastille day flares where used one did not go out in time, it landed on a brand new unoccupied French boat and but for the timely action of the British boat tied along side it would have been a disaster.
So think hard before letting off flares on or near land.
alldownwind
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There is a danger letting off old flares on the 5th Nov.
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It is also illegal at least in the UK!
A red flare is a distress flare. Period. If a red flare is seen, it will cause an immediate search and rescue response. You wouldn't want it any other way, would you?
Having been dragged out of bed at night several times to tramp around looking for mythical people in distress, I feel quite strongly about this!
There is a danger letting off old flares on the 5th Nov.
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It is also illegal at least in the UK!
A red flare is a distress flare. Period. If a red flare is seen, it will cause an immediate search and rescue response. You wouldn't want it any other way, would you?
Having been dragged out of bed at night several times to tramp around looking for mythical people in distress, I feel quite strongly about this!
bumblefish
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He could be winding people up? I think he might have done it in the distant past. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
cliff
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He could be winding people up? I think he might have done it in the distant past. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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He could be winding people up? I think he might have done it in the distant past. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
[/ QUOTE ]What?, wind people up? who?, me?...... /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif jez, it is so easy on here........ /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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alldownwind
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It's OK, muppets, I'm quite calm.
Channel Ribs
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When I read the article it occured to me to write to Dover CG and offer my services, I would be quite happy to collect, store and then dispose of small quantities. My colleague disuaded me though, suggesting that the number of old flares waiting for a free home was truely massive. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
benjenbav
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I bought a new set of flares this year from Peters chandlery at Chichester and at my request they took my out of date ones for disposal.
KellysEye
Well-Known Member
We took ours to the local police station (the larger stations have explosives storage facilities). There was much form filling involved.
Greenwichman
Well-Known Member
While awaiting a solution I wonder what is the best thing to do? Mine are hanging in a carrier bag in the garage, away from combustibles, but not exactly "safe". Not sure what my house insurer would say. Any better ideas?
mcframe
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Chuck 'em overboard next time you're passing:
51° 28’ 04” N 00° 47’ 12” E
51° 27’ 57” N 00° 47’ 22” E
51° 27’ 50” N 00° 47’ 11” E
51° 27’ 58” N 00° 47’ 01” E
Just kdding!
51° 28’ 04” N 00° 47’ 12” E
51° 27’ 57” N 00° 47’ 22” E
51° 27’ 50” N 00° 47’ 11” E
51° 27’ 58” N 00° 47’ 01” E
Just kdding!
sheppard
Active Member
Interested in your remark that its illegal to set off old flares on Nov 5th. I can see the problem setting them off at the coast but what if you live a loooong way from the sea - like Oxfordshire!
jonathankent
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I would think it be a good idea if the coastguard could regularly run/co-ordinate organised events for us to bring along our out of date flares and practice letting one off. I was taught that it is one thing reading how to do it, but actually letting one off quite another... we did let off dead ones, i.e. had the smoke element removed. I for one would attend a coastguard event anyway.
alldownwind
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Interested in your remark that its illegal to set off old flares on Nov 5th. I can see the problem setting them off at the coast but what if you live a loooong way from the sea - like Oxfordshire!
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Can't imagine why that would be a problem, can you?
Interested in your remark that its illegal to set off old flares on Nov 5th. I can see the problem setting them off at the coast but what if you live a loooong way from the sea - like Oxfordshire!
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Can't imagine why that would be a problem, can you?
alldownwind
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I would think it be a good idea if the coastguard could regularly run/co-ordinate organised events for us to bring along our out of date flares and practice letting one off. I was taught that it is one thing reading how to do it, but actually letting one off quite another... we did let off dead ones, i.e. had the smoke element removed. I for one would attend a coastguard event anyway.
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Nice idea but Elfen Safety will prevent us from having anything to do with firing off old flares. Against regulations, guv.
I would think it be a good idea if the coastguard could regularly run/co-ordinate organised events for us to bring along our out of date flares and practice letting one off. I was taught that it is one thing reading how to do it, but actually letting one off quite another... we did let off dead ones, i.e. had the smoke element removed. I for one would attend a coastguard event anyway.
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Nice idea but Elfen Safety will prevent us from having anything to do with firing off old flares. Against regulations, guv.
jonathankent
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What about if the CG had nothing to do with it and was run by private individuals. Would the CG refuse us permission to do it? Who makes the regulations BTW?
It seems as if its too dangerous to have flares on board... I think I will have to do that risk assessment before I next go out /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
It seems as if its too dangerous to have flares on board... I think I will have to do that risk assessment before I next go out /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
alldownwind
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What about if the CG had nothing to do with it and was run by private individuals. Would the CG refuse us permission to do it? Who makes the regulations BTW?
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These CG regulations apply to CG personnel. CG regs forbid CG staff from doing it, and therefore I don't imagine we could attend such an event and thereby condone you doing it. However if it was independent, all you'd have to do is to hold it a few miles inland, I guess, and well away from any aircraft! (Pilots get very twitchy about para flares). Let me know where and when and I'll come along incognito with my old flares! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
What about if the CG had nothing to do with it and was run by private individuals. Would the CG refuse us permission to do it? Who makes the regulations BTW?
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These CG regulations apply to CG personnel. CG regs forbid CG staff from doing it, and therefore I don't imagine we could attend such an event and thereby condone you doing it. However if it was independent, all you'd have to do is to hold it a few miles inland, I guess, and well away from any aircraft! (Pilots get very twitchy about para flares). Let me know where and when and I'll come along incognito with my old flares! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Twister_Ken
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Might be out of bounds for CG, but I attended an event organised by local RNLI. 'Twas a few years back, though, before Elfen Safety become such a strapping child.