How many litres is enough?

yachtorion

New member
Joined
4 Oct 2009
Messages
1,024
Visit site
The water tank on my Horizon 26 is much too small.... so I'm investigating alternatives. There is a big locker at the front that I think I could put a tank in, I'm just wondering how big.

Pressurised water system, one galley sink, one heads sink with shower. Diesel hot water.

A few days away from a marina at a time.

Any views?
 

Tranona

Well-known member
Joined
10 Nov 2007
Messages
42,382
Visit site
Big as you can if you don't mind losing the storage space. Cheapest is a flexible bag tank. Otherwise to maximize capacity in the space you need a custom made tank.
 

prv

Well-known member
Joined
29 Nov 2009
Messages
37,361
Location
Southampton
Visit site
Don't forget the effect of the extra weight if you put it right forward or right aft. We put a new fuel tank in Kindred Spirit's stern, and in retrospect this may have been a mistake from the point of view of trim.

Pete
 

alahol2

Well-known member
Joined
22 Apr 2004
Messages
5,841
Location
Portchester, Solent
www.troppo.co.uk
We use a flexible tank under a forepeak berth. The bag is nominally 150Ltr but, because of the shape of the enclosure, I would guess we get about 120Ltr in it. That will last us a week without skimping, longer if we are careful. We don't have a shower. There are two of us aboard.
 

oldsaltoz

New member
Joined
4 Jul 2001
Messages
6,005
Location
Australia, East coast.
Visit site
If you end up with a flexible / bladder tank, install a breathable mat before the bladder, this will help prevent blisters on the hull on the inside.

Old carpet or carpet tiles work, just make the top edge is exposed so the moisture can get away.

Good luck and fair winds. :)
 

blackbeard

Active member
Joined
17 May 2003
Messages
1,009
Location
Hampshire
Visit site
How big is your existing tank?
You have a shower head in the heads - do you actually use this to have a shower?
It's possible that even quite a small tank will be enough for a few days away from a marina. And you don't want the tank to be too big - if it's small it will get refilled with fresh water fairly regularly, but if it's big the contents can fester for months.
And yes, the weight of the water in the tank can affect how the boat sails. 200 litres of water is about 4 hundredweight, and you don't want that near the bows. And, in a British Hunter, you might not want the weight on the port side - some of them list to port anyway.

For the record, my 245 came with a flexible tank of around 40 litres, which is obviously too small, and I have uprated this to a nominal 100 (probably, due to the space the tank is in, about 80) litres which is enough for 2 people for several days. I also carry about 20 litres in food grade plastic cans so that if the tank does run out, we can till have a cup of tea.
 

jakeroyd

Active member
Joined
26 Jul 2004
Messages
1,482
Visit site
I have a Ranger 245 where a flexible tank is fitted as built.
the space I have takes a 100ltr tank.

The boat definitely sails better when it's full.
 

sailorman

Well-known member
Joined
21 May 2003
Messages
78,888
Location
Here or thertemp ashore
Visit site
The water tank on my Horizon 26 is much too small.... so I'm investigating alternatives. There is a big locker at the front that I think I could put a tank in, I'm just wondering how big.

Pressurised water system, one galley sink, one heads sink with shower. Diesel hot water.

A few days away from a marina at a time.

Any views?

Take the fuse out of the pressure pump & use hand or foot pumps
 

SteveSarabande

Active member
Joined
3 Apr 2012
Messages
1,302
Location
Solent
Visit site
How far are you going in a 26' yacht. I have a 90 litre flexible bag in my 27' but only one manual pump tap.

How do you squeeze a shower into As 26' boat? I barely squeeze into my heads compartment
 

geem

Well-known member
Joined
27 Apr 2006
Messages
8,043
Location
Caribbean
Visit site
The water tank on my Horizon 26 is much too small.... so I'm investigating alternatives. There is a big locker at the front that I think I could put a tank in, I'm just wondering how big.

Pressurised water system, one galley sink, one heads sink with shower. Diesel hot water.

A few days away from a marina at a time.

Any views?

2 people living on board allow 5 gallons per day. This is enough for a quick shower each. This based on our consumption living on board for 15 months. Work out how many days you want based on this
 

JumbleDuck

Well-known member
Joined
8 Aug 2013
Messages
24,167
Location
SW Scotland
Visit site
As I got her, my boat had a flexible tank of, I estimate, about 100 litres under the quarter berth. With liberal use - washing up after every meal - it would last two and a half people for about a week. The boat originally came with a second flexible tank under the forecabin vee berth, which I refitted last year and which gives me another 100 litres or so, With reasonable economy I would expect the new total of 200 litres to last two people for four weeks. No shower, just manual pumps in galley and heads.
 

Gwylan

Well-known member
Joined
31 May 2007
Messages
3,651
Location
Moved ashore
Visit site
We have 300 litres, never a problem with blokes.
Also have a salt water pump at the sink, gets the worst of washing up done. Then rinse everything in one kettle of boiling water.

Switch the pump off when sailing, encourage using the plug in the sinks and a mug of water for teeth brushing.

Use the 10 litres per person per day, works quite well. Have 5 litre bottles stashed so we can make tea if things get bad.

The boat becomes very skittish when the tank is low and in a following sea can be a bit of a handful if empty.
 

blackbeard

Active member
Joined
17 May 2003
Messages
1,009
Location
Hampshire
Visit site
I did once (years ago) hear of a charter yacht with insecurely fixed flexible tanks (very large ones, I assume).
One day, with the boat well heeled, the tanks shifted.
The boat lay on her beam ends, filled, and sank.
(Doubt if a decent modern design would do this, but you have been warned.)
 

yachtorion

New member
Joined
4 Oct 2009
Messages
1,024
Visit site
Thanks all. I think I'm going to convert the existing tank into a locker and put a flexible tank in the starboard underbunk locker over the keel. I reckon I'll get about 100l in there. A new battery I'm adding on the port side will go a bit of the way to offsetting it and the diesel tank is already on the port side.
 
Top