How long to deregister a German flagged boat?

[speedfiend]

Hi All,
Anyone have any idea of how quickly a German flagged boat (V53) can be deregistered?
S

 

[MystereMarcus]

Hi Speedfiend,
When I bought my boat it was registered in Germany (not sure if it was V53 or if there are any other registers in Germany). The seller deregistered it and provided the certificate to me within 2 weeks of the purchase.

 

[speedfiend]

Brilliant thanks. Just wanted to get a timeframe on my purchase.
S

 

[MystereMarcus]

No problem. It was registered on the ships register so presume this will be the same for all craft.

 

[Jim@sea]

Hi All,
Anyone have any idea of how quickly a German flagged boat (V53) can be deregistered?
S

Immediately. If you go to Windemere and register it to use on the lake.
They dont care what registration it already has, they put a Lake District Number on it there and then.
When I took my French Registered Fishing Boat there I said that it was French Registered and showed them the Registration Documents including Passport Photographs and details of every owner since 1986 but it did not matter, theirs took priority.
And as you are not allowed to have a boat registered with more than one country, effectively my French Registration was cancelled immediately.

 

[Seastoke]

Is widermere a country then .

 

[Tranona]

Immediately. If you go to Windemere and register it to use on the lake.
They dont care what registration it already has, they put a Lake District Number on it there and then.
When I took my French Registered Fishing Boat there I said that it was French Registered and showed them the Registration Documents including Passport Photographs and details of every owner since 1986 but it did not matter, theirs took priority.
And as you are not allowed to have a boat registered with more than one country, effectively my French Registration was cancelled immediately.

What a silly thing to say! Lake District registration has no meaning outside the lakes and completely useless if you boat elsewhere.

 

[MapisM]

not sure if it was V53 or if there are any other registers in Germany

LOL, I suspect that the OP was talking of a Princess model....
...though for all I know, the Germans could well have a V53 boat register. And also a U571, for that matter!

 

[Momac]

What a silly thing to say! .

I agree
In any case if that rule is correct and if the boat is already on a register in another country would it not make the new UK registration invalid?

 

[alant]

Hi All,
Anyone have any idea of how quickly a German flagged boat (V53) can be deregistered?
S

Probably no-one left around, who was at Scapa Flow, to ask!

 

[MystereMarcus]

LOL, I suspect that the OP was talking of a Princess model....
...though for all I know, the Germans could well have a V53 boat register. And also a U571, for that matter!

He he, that does make a lot more sense. I must read things more thoroughly in future!

 

[Tranona]

I agree
In any case if that rule is correct and if the boat is already on a register in another country would it not make the new UK registration invalid?

It would if we were talking about "proper" registration, that is SSR or Part 1, but not local registration permitting use on specific waters, or mooring in a specific harbour. You need that for those waters irrespective of the national registration.

 

[adey]

I guess the main point is that the current owner is not going to let you have the boat until it's deregistered.

 

[MapisM]

It would if we were talking about "proper" registration, that is SSR or Part 1, but not local registration permitting use on specific waters, or mooring in a specific harbour. You need that for those waters irrespective of the national registration.

Do you mean that you need that ON TOP of the nat. reg.?
That would be sensible IMHO, but your previous post seemed to confirm that it's fine for the lake alone...
...which I found weird, TBH.

 

[Tranona]

Do you mean that you need that ON TOP of the nat. reg.?
That would be sensible IMHO, but your previous post seemed to confirm that it's fine for the lake alone...
...which I found weird, TBH.

"Registration" is a word with many meanings. A register is just a list, so you have to look at the purpose of the list. The most common meanings for boats are on either a nationality register or Register of title - although some registers such as Part 1 perform both functions. There are usually strict rules that control such registers, and almost universally nationality registers forbid being on more than one register at a time - hence the question about deregistration when a boat changes ownership.

The local registers are often used to control the number and type of boat used on a particular waterway, provide identity for the boat and are a basis for charging fees for the use of the waterway.

 

[MapisM]

All well and good, but doesn't this mean that what Jim@sea suggested is plain wrong, rather than just meaningless "outside the lakes"?
I mean, my understanding is that by following his suggestion, the boat would have been good to go (at least) within the lakes, but still flying a D flag... Which ain't what the OP was asking, I reckon.
Or am I missing something?

 

[Tranona]

However, in his first sentence he said that deregistration is immediate - which it is not. Think he misunderstood the question, hence the misleading reply.

 

[speedfiend]

See next thread- game has changed.

 

[Seastoke]

Twelve minutes for the bismark