How big an overlap?

[awol]

When I park my boat on a finger pontoon I try not to overlap the main walkway, or not by much anyway. However, other vessels, especially duck-billed mobos, seem to find it acceptable to block half the walkway - even boats with bowsprits manage to cause less obstruction. As these boats never seem to move or be occupied I have never had to work out a way to broach the subject with their owners - probably just as well.

How do you deal with such annoyances?

 

[l'escargot]

Trolleys.

 

[Sgeir]

It happens because, in the main, because they are either new to boats and therefore inexperienced (excusable IMHO), or, if experienced, they're ignorant tits. Or maybe their boats are just too big, which begs the question as to why they're there in the first place. Why bother with it?

Just put up with it, smile, get on with life, and give them a cheery wave next time you see them. Everybody has to learn.

 

[bilbobaggins]

Wrap a bandage round your wife's head, take her to the car past the marina office, drop her off at a coffee shop, then come back and speak to the marina manager.

When he asks what happened, tell him she was injured by one of the several obstructions projecting from these mobos over the pontoon, that you've left her being assessed, then go and 'take' some photographs of the offending prows. Tell him your insurance company has insisted you enclose these with your liability claim for injury and negligence. Then go join your wife.

By the time you come back, a few hours later, I bet they'll all have been moved and secured more responsibly.

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[snowleopard]

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Just put up with it, smile, get on with life, and give them a cheery wave next time you see them. Everybody has to learn.

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Not really an option to ignore it when there's an anchor on the end of the bow, at head height over the centre of the pontoon and you walk into it in the dark.

 

[sunquest]

Absolutely right, it is the marinas responsibility to ensure all walkways etc are clear. The problem is exacerbated by the marinas themselves with pontoons of insufficient length for the boats. Geoff

 

[Swagman]

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Just put up with it, smile, get on with life, and give them a cheery wave next time you see them. Everybody has to learn.

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Not really an option to ignore it when there's an anchor on the end of the bow, at head height over the centre of the pontoon and you walk into it in the dark.

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I'd second this response - all very well being hale fellow well met etc, but people have got hurt and it is dangerous so should be brought to someones attention. Or it will continue.
JOHN

 

[awol]

I tend to agree that marina management should take responsibility and act as parking wardens but I cannot see that using the excuse of pontoon length to block walkways and inconvenience others is valid. It's akin to MPVs parking on the pavement so they don't block the road.

 

[Athene V30]

The marina company should do something in exchange for the ££'s they extract.

 

[andy_wilson]

Don\'t agree....

Anchors at a height that can do serious harm, or those nice shiny box section davits, at an equally damaging level.

I always ensure my front rail does not overlap the walkway, and ahve raised this with marinas on more than one occassion.

Darthaven and Plymouth Yacht haven seem to have the worst examples in my recent experience.

 

[Dyflin]

No need to get dramatic about it, just have a word with the marina manager and point out the H&S hazard. It's language he/she'll understand. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[jimg]

Maybe it because they allocate a finger berth smaller than the actual boat?
Alternatively the owner declares a slighter shorter LOA to the marina?

 

[Sailfree]

Re: Don\'t agree....

What about Cherbourg's short pontoons, surely an amount of overhang while not ideal is inevitable there.

 

[Sgeir]

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Just put up with it, smile, get on with life, and give them a cheery wave next time you see them. Everybody has to learn.

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Not really an option to ignore it when there's an anchor on the end of the bow, at head height over the centre of the pontoon and you walk into it in the dark.

[/ QUOTE ]OK. Yesterday, I was trying to be nice to people. But you're right. They are either inexperienced and someone needs to tell them, or else they're selfish gits and the marina should get heavy on them.

Personally, I've never seen one at head height, but can think of one or two round here who probably have. And, of course there are children, who are probably more likely to run into them.

Anyone tried "hazard" tape round the anchor as a subtle hint?

 

[DAKA]

Dont you think it is a little give and take.

It is annoying to find some one folding their main sail on the pontoon or even leaving it there to dry!

Good job stinkers are used to giving way and slowing down all the time or an impatient one just might wheel over them /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[andy_wilson]

Still don\'t agree....

Anyway, I like the pontoons at Cherbourg, especially if you walk back onto them just as a big 'un is disembarking.

If they are way too short, reverse in.

 

[pelicanpete]

Re: Still don\'t agree....

Hang a 2' x 2' cardboard placard with a very large and bold handwritten 'W' over his offending anchor.

 

[mickshep]

Re: Still don\'t agree....

We had a problem with a new arrival to our pontoon a year or 2 back. 2 bloody great dogs left to bark while owner walked to shops and shore power wires draped accross walkways as his power point damaged. Wires regularly left accross pontoons even when owner not aboard. Situation politely pointed out to offender but to no avail. One sunday as a number of us stood looking at the offending boat one of our party cut the 6 feet of wire that lay accross the pontoon out all together. The boat owner got the message then and moved to another marina. Cutting bowsprit off yacht might be a little extreme though /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[DaveS]

I like that suggestion - suitably subtle!

I might try that next year; one of my "neighbours" has a muckle great anchor overhanging the walkway at head height. I normally remember it's there, but have occasionally almost walked into it.

 

[oceanfroggie]

Many mobo drivers are have limited seamanship, hence I didn't refer to all of them as skippers. Many mobo drivers don't know what a spring is, hence the problem.

Springs exist for a reason. Plenty of space here!